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Team of the Week (Apple Core) | Episode 86

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On this week's episode of the #EShow we feature the final 'Original 6' franchise of the off-season, the New York Apple Core. Mike LaZazzera is gearing up his 3rd season at the helm in Brewster (1:07), eager to get off to a good start in September. With hopes of a normal season on the horizon, LaZazzera is feeling as confident as ever for the upcoming year. As always, we wrap-up the episode (20:14) with another all-time lineup showcasing a pair of goaltenders that truly excelled in the NCAA ranks.

Welcome to the e show with Neil Raven. With over onezero NCAA commitments, the ehl is the proven path to college. Turn it up and learn more about the college placement leader at the division two and three levels. Welcome to the east show presented by the penalty box foundation. The foundation's mission centers around their daily motto we take care of our own, as they help out all of those within the hockey community who've experienced a catastrophic event. Learn more at penalty box foundation dot Org. What's up? My name is Neil Raven. This episode number eighty six of the e show, and on this week's episode we featured the final original six franchise of the offseason, The New York Apple Corps. Michael is Azra is gearing up for his third season that the helm and brewster eager to get off to a good start in September. With hopes of a normal season on the horizon, Les Azarre is feeling as confident as ever for the upcoming year. As always, we rap up the episode with another all time line up showcasing a pair of goaltenders that truly excelled in the NCA ranks. I'm joy now by Michaelsazara, the head coach and General Manager The New York Apple Corps. How's it going, Mike? Pretty good. Neal, how are you? I'm doing well and welcome back on to the east show. Had you on around this time last year and as we kind of get set here for yourself, this is going to be your third year in the League. You're going back on your first year as your very first season. Last year you were heading into a pandemic season. So your third year, does it feel, in quotes, normal? Yeah, very much so. It does feel a little bit back to normal. I think society feels a little bit back tone normal. You know, I don't want to jump the gun, but it's definitely, you know, things are a little bit more normal everywhere, at the rink, just anywhere you go now. So last year as trying of the year it was, but it was it was pretty incredible of the League to get as many games in as we did and, if I may hear, that had a lot to do with you. Thank you. I can't, I can't, can't tell you how many end with meetings that you had with US coaches and rescheduling and scheduling and changing games and you deserve a lot of credit and that was incredible just to get as many games as we did in last year, Forty Games. But hopefully we'll be somewhat back to normal this year and I know we're so much closer to the new season than last season, but there's so much to look back on from last season for you that I have to I have to ask some questions, like the first one that stands out to me. How do you, as a coach, talk to a team when you can't play a home game in your actual home building until Wednesday February third, like, how do you have that conversation? That was probably the most unique coaching situation I've ever been and never have I ever gone a season where you don't play a home game until February. But you know, the rules were the rules in New York and we bide by them and you know, everybody was kind of in a similar boat, but we just, you know, for our purposes, couldn't have any games in our home building. So it was it was definitely challenging. You know. Just I give I tell you what, I give a lot of credit to my support staff, my assistant coaches, Rob Belger and Mac Rogan, Steve Santini, the owner, you know, a lot of logistical work behind the scenes, but most of all the players, players, we're troopers really. They just you know, I can't tell you how many times you walk in the locker room on a daily basis and you know, within a threehour span, you know two things have changed. I remember...

...one time we were actually practicing in the morning last year and Steve never bothers us, never interferes with anything. He came out to the rink. I was like, oh well, what's going on and he said, can you play a game tonight? I'm like, okay, yeah, we can do that. Sure. So you know, and that's that's a tribute to the players. I mean to be that flexible and the just want to you know, just want to play, and it didn't matter where they are playing, it didn't matter who they are playing. And I give all the credit to the players as well as the guys that worked with me, my assistant coaches, Steve, everybody. You just I'll do logistics that people don't see, the behind the scene stuff, and that's what really makes things work. And having to play three, maybe even four games in a week, how does that Change Your coaching mentality, because I'm sure you've never had to do that before. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, that's definitely changes things. Your changes, your your perspective, your take on the on the week. What I like to do personally is have them days throughout the week where we have an offensive day and Defensive Day of practice. Offensive days will consist of odd man drills where we're doing two, one, three, on two's, small area games there were where there's odd numbers for on threes, for U Two's, and defensive days there's even numbers. Obviously, as you could figure out, one on ones, two on two, three on threes. So you like to do that, you know, throughout the course of a week, knowing you're just going to play in the weekend, but then all of a sudden your face with four games in a row. You don't have that luxury of having themes and and and themed days and offensively one day, defense another. So you just kind of get what you need to work on. You Look at you know your opponent and you go on past Games that you played, look at film and say, okay, this is what we need to work on, these are good drills we're going to do in practice. Of course we always try to get the special teams in every practice, so it's definitely a challenge. But again, the players, you know, they just whatever I threw up there and on the practice sheet, put it on the glass at the starter practice players and come over look at it. Okay, let's go, and they were just incredible last year and you know, all the credit goes to them. And one thing that we set a lot on this podcast last year. Obviously you played more games the year before then this past year. You won thirteen your first year, twelve this past year, with in in last games played. But a common statement that was made was that you are team was, in dependent opinions of the PODCAST, a lot better than your record show that show. Did you feel the same way I did? I really did, you know, and that was kind of amongst the coaching staff, and you know when we'd have meetings after practice or throughout the week and we'd say, you know, we're a way better team than wherever we were at the point that season. Say we're we feel like we're a way better team than any game win, you know season so far, or ten games or whatever the mark was when we were saying those statements. Absolutely we thought that and you know, it was. It was just no excuses. It's you know, we got to perform, we got to execute. You know, we don't get the job done, we don't finish games, and that's on me and and the players got to execute and that's on them. But, you know, I I feel like we definitely, you were a better team than our record. We're in a lot of close games, even, you know, the playoffs kind of indicated that, you know, to one goal games over times, you know, against a very good protect team. So yeah, I personally thought that the players I got to sent to that to you know, we're way better team than however many wins we had and it was frustrating. was frustrating, but that's on me, that's you know, that's on the head coach and we got to perform, we got to execute and we got to get the job done this year. You'll never make excuses as a coach, but did you feel like when the season...

...ended, yet a chance to kind of breathe? Did you feel like, because of how many games had to be played in such a small window, that that ultimately impacted your performance in the postseason? Now I don't. I mean I feel like the guys the postseasons, postseason. If you don't get up for postseason as a player, then you know, maybe you're in the wrong sport. I just feel like it's easy to get up to the playoffs. It's easy to motivate yourself to the playoffs intrinsically. You just have that, you know, that revitalized energy or in the playoffs and you want to go. And it doesn't matter if you just play five and five or foward and six or whatever. You know, you just want to go and you want to play. And you know, I get it. You know, teams have the choice of starting the series when they want to start it, but nobody wants to sit around either. The guys. You know what, if you tell them you want to practice two days or do you want to play tomorrow, all they're going to say I want to play tomorrow, and so that that's no excuse. We just ran into a better team. You know they they were better than us. It was a great games, though I will say that, you know, overtime games, one goal games each game, but you know, they were, they were better team in that series for sure. I ask that because around this time last year, when I had you on the question was somewhat similar, but it was your team and got started to get hot late in that nineteen twenty season. I asked you if you felt that another week or so what a resulted in the postseason birth for your team. You fast forward to just this past here and you kind of got hot in the same exact manner. Does it feel like like almost like now you kind of have a chip on your shoulder that hey, things are normal, we're going to start better out of the gates and we're not going to feel like we're in that same grind mode, if you will, at the very final stretch? Hundred percent, great question. Hundred percent. I remember you asking me that question last season and you know it's funny. I talked to coach Grogan quite a bit. Are My goalie coach here with with apple core and great. First of all, it's unbelievable to have a full time goalie coach with us. He doesn't incredible job with the video over the goalies and everything, but he was saying the sames. He says we got to get out to a fast start. We just had a conversation two days ago. He says we got to get out to a fast start. He says, you know, we play well in the beginning, but we lose the one two goal games and you know those are those are ones that come back to at the end of the season. Then you know as far as the win totals and and you know where you are as far as a seed in the playoffs. You know, home ice, not home ice. But he's that's a great question because we literally just talked about it two days ago and he said we absolutely need to come out of the gate pass, we need we need good goaltending, we need to score, we need to button up our defensive zone. But that's something that you know, you're talking about it here and on this podcast. We talked about it, you know, a couple days ago. So you're right on. and Are you sitting in on our meetings or what's going on? They're not, not yet. But with what with coach Grogan, I think that you were the only team that puts go pros behind each snet. What's I know sounds so my new, but I got to actually pull a few highlights from them this past year. How much of the goalies kind of embrace me able to have a camera angle like that and when they review their play. Absolutely unbelievable, like I can't even put into words. The goalies that when I'm recruiting goalies in the offseason and I that's the first thing I talked about, his coach Grogan. Why I spend twenty minutes talking about Mac Grogan? Because the video, the video work that he does the the go pros. He puts together a tape, or all tape, I old school, right, that's what we call it, but a video of you put together video for the goalies after every game of all their touches. Okay, and it's incredible. He edited out the Kit. The Guy Does it, you know, after the game he goes home, you know, edits out. Every touch is going makes,...

...a dump in, face off, a play around the Minette, a shot on goal, and it's about a ten minute long. Yeah, of fifteen, fifteen second clips. That's a lot of work. And the goalies, I mean it's invaluable. Like the goalies, how much they appreciate it and how much they learned from those things, just their angles, what they're doing and setting up on face offs before the pucks drop, going back and playing the Parkin and, you know, looking at one timers check, shoulder checks and pushes from side to side. Everything is on this video every single time they touch the puck. It's incredible that in your right to go proo. He's you know, he leaves the locker room early at the end of the group before we go out to the period starts and you know, I say what I have to say at the eight minute mark and then he runs out, sits up run takes a go pro up one glass. That's it, up down the other end. It's just incredible. He is always appreciate it. I appreciate it and we're so lucky to have them and we use one of the highlights is part of the opening commercial and Hockey TV. So for those that haven't seen how clear it is, there's a safe made by Jackson Bernard that was shot with the go pro. It's right the beginning of every hockey TV broadcast. But it wasn't just your goalways. This past year, and I know I'm going to get to this at on the podcast when I build the all time apple core lineup with Jeff, but one thing that we talked about a lot in this podcast was, in our opinions, how underrated some of your forwards were. Did you feel the same way when when you talked about Michael Leave, our Colin Tallin and muscle, Car Duchy, you name it. Did you feel like they were underrated in the League? I did, I really did. I felt, like, you know, Michael Leava was one point shy of being the leading scorer in the league, just kind of a forgotten guy. And know, it's apple core and and you know what it is, what it is, and you know reality is reality, and you know it's the winning teams that get most of the glory, I guess right, and most of the the attention. So and we didn't have a winning record, so that contributed to it. But I do feel, you know, you a valid point. I do feel that these guys were underrated. I undervalued, I think in the league, you know, as a whole. Like you know, we're playing apple core and guys forget. You know, we had Michael Leave, a second leading goal scorer in the League, Colin Callney, and you know, I think he was in the top ten or fifteen and in the entire league. You'll probably know better than that with the statistics and Car Duchy and yeah, I mean we had some really good forwards and and happy to say that they're all, you know, moving on to play Dos in three college hockey, which you know, is obviously that's our number one goal here. Of course we want to win, but we want to get these guys, you know, off to the next level. And but yeah, they were. They were great players, great great kids off the ice, on the ice, and I just felt like maybe they didn't get their respect they deserved. But they, you know, kind of using your phrase which you use a couple minutes ago, they had a little chip on the shoulder. So they go into games with with a little chip on the shoulder and you know, and that kind of motivated them a little bit as well. And I'll tell you what, the Eighty Sevens coaching staff and not think they were underrated, for maybe they were the ones that point it out to me, because they always said to me when those guys are on the ice, you have to look out for them, but when you talk about them they'll leave us the cartouch. He's Rascouski. They're all multiple year guys for you, two year guys that were with you your first season and your second year. Of course they're going to be hard to replace, but to see them make that next step to the college level. What's the feeling that you get as a coach? Yeah, that's that's the best feeling actually. That's that's, you know, above and beyond all the other wins you can have and and whatever, just, you know, going with them the whole way, the whole season, you know, the ups in the downs of a season, the good in the bad, and then, you know, finally, at the end of season, getting there, there, there due, you know, if you will, and having coaches reach out and multiple coaches, you know, leave. It had...

...eight hundred and ten, twelve at a time. You know, guys interested in him just you know, he comes to example, to mind for an example. But it's just so gratifying seeing these kids and they appreciate it. Like you know, they still call me in the summer. You know, thanks, coach, and or you know, what can I do? You know, I got this program from from the school. I'm going to this offseason work up program. Can you help me with something? And you know. So it's great that they still stay in touch and they're appreciative and and that just makes you know, that's why you coach really. I mean, of course everybody wants to win and everybody wants to win a championship, but it's it's those things that that a lot of people don't see and the hard work that the guys put in and practice and and then it pays off and you're just like your static and I don't know who's more happier, me or the guys that are going to the school. It's just it really is a gratifying experience. And Yeah, hate timids and counting for your team. But does also even announced the core of players that are coming back, Colby water, straight into door off, John Myers, Jimmy Mettler, to be able to have a core like that returning, does it make it almost easier for you as a coach? I don't know if they use the word easy meal with coaching. I'm just messing with you, but I don't know. I mean it's definitely for the kind of nuty purposes. Yeah, I would say that's a better word. I like the kind of nuity of the guys come. I think we have I don't know, my Rasterroo in front of me, but eleven or twelve guys coming back and and that's huge. You know, from year to year, having that many players come back in a season. You know you, they know the systems, they know what you like to do. They know the your power play templates, they know you're apparently kill philosophy. They know the for checks, they know all the systems and that helps. And then they also know what's expected me from practice and the compete level you want and practice. So the new guys coming in, having ten eleven guys coming back, to all guys coming back, they're looking to those guys in practice like okay, you know, we're going to follow these guys, we're going to follow the league, we're going to, you know, get maybe too deep in mine for this new drill we don't understand, and watch the veterans do it. And so it's all the little things that definitely helped. But it's great to have that that core coming back. I tell you because they were an intricral part from those guys, all those guys you mentioned were an integral part of the team last season and they're going to be more a bigger part of the team this season. So very excited to have all those guys back. So then let's put you on the spot for the last question, because I know Steve Stantini is responsible for the scheduling. Obviously he owns the team and runs the rink there. But when you do get the schedule, you guys play on opening which is Friday September seventeen. That opening weekend you played the ducks twice. What's the great players wasn't you? DID ANYONE POINT OUT TO STEVE? Hey, Steve would love to open up against the ducks and maybe get some revenge? Well, I don't want to give way any secrets meal, but but Steve, Steve's obviously a hockey guy. You know, as anybody in the hockey world knows, Steve Sun Place for his Engl was blues. I always tell this to kids whenever I'm recruiting. I talked to I talked to kids were I'm recruiting. I talked about Steve Weaver and I talked about our owner, because I he gets it like he gets the junior, the whole model of the junior idea and ideal and and you know he had a son that played junior hockey and college and I'll professional hockey in the NHL. So Steve Gets it. And you know what, I think maybe there was some you know, block protests there that let's hope up against protext, since since they were the team that act us out of the playoffs. So I'm not going to I'm not going to give...

...you a hundred percent answer and that, but it's a possibility. Well, I'll be tuned in on that Friday night as forty five. All right, all right, sounds good. All Right, thanks for coming on. All right, you know it's always pleasure. Thank you. Thanks again to Michael Zazarra for coming on the podcast this week as he prepares for another season with the Apple Corps. And with that let's bring in Jeff Mills now, and Jeff Our final original six team of the offseason. Wow, crazy, can't believe. Opening days right around the corps deal right was like we've been doing these offseason things forever. The physical do it for five minutes and we we did a few of the I think we did a few of the original six like early on and then kind of spaced out a little bit as a summer progressed. Yeah, so this is the last of that group. That includes the Rangers, the little flyers, the rough riders, the warriors and the express there we go us. Yeah, but to that to compare with those original those other franchises that true, that I think have the most in common are the apple core and the warriors because when you look at really the rough riders and express and Rangers, they had history a little bit prior to the Eh Shell, but not like the warriors and Apple Court did. Because when you go to the warriors and apple core elite prospects pages, like we had, we had the same issue a few weeks ago, you see all these names and you're like, from like two thousand then these guys play on the EHL Apple Court teams. Right there were those the first editions of this league, before two thousand and thirteen, when we actually started the eastern hockey league. Yes, like if you go, if you go to the apple core elite prospects all time stats page, you have to go all the way down to the thirteen guy to find someone from the EHL, because there's just that much history before. And you can even see. Look a look all these years, two thousand and two, two thousand and four. So we were in high school and these guys are stripping juniors. I mean the EHL ten years prior to what it became a thing, was not even the thought process of that time right, but exactly there's there is pluting, a talent, though, to be found throughout the what is eight years of history for the apple core in the ehl. So where do we want to start? We've had a bounst around starting all summer. We want to start for D goalie. I was just going to ask you with the same question. They're my friend. I just I have a three for it. I have two goalies. Oh, you do all right, I have bottom up then if Kay I have two goalies and the first goalie. We've talked about his college team a lot this year, a lot this summer I should say, and that's Blake wolds, Tala and playing. Played for the Salvey Regeda team that went to the national championship game and lost to St Norbert. Remember we talked all this offseason podcast. I feel like we've been hammer and Salvey on this podcast. Well, I mean this was the two thousand and seventeen eighteen year, right. So in twenty eight games for Salvey that year he had a one hundred and ninety nine goals against the three seven state percentage. Wow, yeah, that is extremely good for college, like out of this world. That shows you can make the jump. You can play juniors and he was arguably a better college player than he was a junior's player. I mean first team all conference in the CECC both the seventeen eighteen and eighteen nineteen years. So those are his junior and senior year. He was the goalie of the year both years. He was phenomenal. In God even, honestly, is apple corn. Numbers were not, you know, terrible. In quotes, I guess you could say it at not eleven his first year, nine too to...

...his second year. But unlike like we say to do with the goalies, not to cut you off, you have to take their staff of the greatest salt to I mean it is what the Apple Corps have struggled traditionally as a franchise. So I mean the defense in front of Watch Tala hasn't been, you know, the premier style defense that you want in front of you for a goaltender. Right. So obviously your numbers are going to be a little flated. But then it just shows when you go into college and that you can put up numbers like that, goaltender of the year twice. You got some skill. Your good goaltender her team like that that's traditional the best d three teams. I'm curious to see if he ends up somewhere this year. He's part of that kind of class of players that graduated and then covid hit but started a minor career like he would play Hl. He was playing in and Worcester at before Worcester became an AHL team. Right, yea. So well, I'll be curious to see if he's the type of kid that gets a chance to come back into an ETHL team this year. Another player that kind of falls in that same category of what Jeff just mentioned. Look at how many guys have played goalie for the Apple Coren in their junior hockey history. One of one of those. Wow, it's well, one year, yeah, but it's just amazing. Like how many years of history that program has right now, like and and there's been a lot. Like I'M gonna go. There's, if actually a few choices here, but I'm going to go tim sets stack because he caught he was had a first game in yes, he kind of follows with the same you know mentality, if you will, that you were just talking about, where you look at his time with the Bott with the apple cores over a nine fifteen safe percentage and then went on to Wesleyan. I mean this year assistance sane. Twenty one games during the eighteen nineteen season at Wesleyan he had a one D and five eight goals against average and a fifty SAF percentage. So seven, ninety five percent of the pucks to go your way. You're eight plus student peoples. Goaltender your stuff in ninety five percent of your parts. So so overall in four years of NCA division three play a one, nine and and nine. Oh, I'll take that like anyday. Well, he was the net not even goalie of the year, Jeff. I mean going there. He was the Nestcack Player, player of the year in the two thousand and eighteen nineteen season. They I'll take the MVP. Thank you very much. But I think that just goes to show you that, like while you're playing juniors, whether you're the team that's in first place of the team that's in last place, there's always going to be a team in both right. You're never that. You have to. You cannot not have a team in last place. That's this House sports work. But you're still developing and it's turning yourself into the player that you want to be and you, when you get there, you can perform right, and I mean the someone that we could say we've kept the honorable mention category for every episode. Jackson Bernard Right Goldenner for them for last year. We brought him up many times on the podcast last year and I believe somebody took him. Did they not in fantasy for a little bit, because I'll did, because they are. They went through some injuries. They lost was Kowski for a while, they lost there was CARDUCCI, weave. They pretty much lost everybody on their floords and then mettler was really good defensively, but they didn't have a ton of guys defensively. So bernards are a lot of pucks, but came up a lot of games where he was making fifty one saves, fifty two saves, and even if you let for pucks in. I mean these college coaches and these scouts, Neil Right, like you just said, they can see. They say something, they see something. Even if you're get peppered, the team's not great in front of you, if you work your you know, one off, then they can see that. And these guys like watch taller and says tax showed enough to get into the College Franks from their efforts at the junior level with the Apple Corps.

Yeah, I mean I named that. I haven't mentioned yet Nick Terrian. Right, HMM, he went on a UTICA. How good is Judacha? Been Year in and year out in the UCA? See, yeah, like right, Great d three school. Yep, I should say he was technically ejhl. I should okay, that came out nine, nine and ten, easy, does it? Chris standerone is the starting goalie at you mass dartmouth now. So he had a good, good little time. You just mentioned Jackson, Bernard, Doug Conner. How many years ago is this? Two Thousand and sixteen, seventeen? In the EHL, he was a part of the first all star team that we put together to play the club all star team. That was like trying out to go play in an event in Europe. And he's kind of gone to college, come back a couple times. Couple Times right. But I mean maybe maybe we'll leave that that hodible net mentioned spot open for a second because maybe it's Bernard. I Remember Guard Juloh. He had a few games and know the numbers, as we mentioned, don't totally show it with a four, three hundred and six and eight eighty four, but there are a few games where he would just turn in fifty C is, wiped his hands and billy, all right, got the win. So well in another team, like you said earlier, to me that's like that. We've said they haven't had a lot of great years, but they've definitely picked off a lot of good teams over the years. Yes, like the warriors. Yeah, you just mentioned they're very much like the warriors fridgise, where they are usually an underdog, but some year they've had a couple of great seasons and then there's been some years we're even though they have been great, they've still picked off some of the cream of the crop of the League. Yeah, recognise this name, Alex Henson, from her where you little, if you junior little flyers. He by he because he began that year with the apple corn. All right. I interviewed him with the frozen finals there, but se you did. So let's let's shift up to forwards, because we got to d were good there. The first four that I want to start with is a guy by the name of Zach White. This is we're talking original, with original years of the EHL. He was on the fourteen fifteen apple core team. Played for a team actually called the brewster bulldogs the year prior to that, which also plays in the same rink as the apple core. That was their their met league team that he went on to play four years at curry. He was the captain. I mean, look at this, twenty six games and senior year thirty nine points. That's pretty damn good every college level and kind of falls in that same categoryos as Blake Watch Chala, where covid hit at a time where he had just started to play a little bit professionally. So we'll see where he ends up will become. Hopefully, I guess I could, I should say, out of out of covid this year and back to the knock on wood normal times. But I knew. I knew we had to include Zach White on this and he actually funny moment with him. We've gone to curry for a campus tour twice with our all star team, but we weren't able to play them like we wanted to last year and it just whenever we went and we toured and Zach was there. Obviously he was a leader on that team. He was like when can we play her team? One can we play your team, and it's finally going to happen, you know, knock on wood again, I should say this year. I'm sure he'd loved to come back and be a part of that game. But absolutely, you want to do Michael Lever, I think we have to do Michael Log I was gonna say there's a lot of guys in that last year's team that we both like a lot. So we could build this forward statue real quick with all these names. But yeah, why do we do Michael Weaver? Because I was actually just looking at some of the will go Michael Leva and then we'll go to some of these other names that I've dug up from like the middle years of the UHL and the way last season played out with the unbalanced schedule, just...

...trying to get everyone through. You have to almost he had fifty eight points in thirty five games, right, and your Stud I had fifty nine and thirty eight. So wasn't he one of the ones that had injuries to he had it cut? Well, he missed it comes to games, because its reason say he plays a full year right, probably leads the league and scoring didn't he's didn't have the highest points per game average. That's a good tribute question for another episode. But like just dynamic right, right and fast is lightning. I know Kyle loved him on his fantasy team. I mean there were there were some games in the second half that was just off of the stat sheet. I mean there was a five point there's a four or five point game here. I mean look at just look at the last stretch here in the last six games, seven games, was yeah, we're three point effort, four three point efforts. Well, crap, fifty eight points. And what was, as I mentioned, thirty five regular Season Games, twenty one goals, thirty seven assists. Actually spent two years, I believe. Right, yeah, he did. There's one, nineteen, twenty and two thousand and twenty one. Yep, so two seasons with the apple cores. Look at me, look at the jump from year one the year two. More than doubled his point production and heading off to you mass, Dartmouth this fall. So I think we'd be reremissed if we didn't have leavea on here. And we'll see that too, don't you want to got jumps like that. Doubles and points also became the assistant captain, so we get to wear the A on his chest last year and Oh yeah, yeah, good things to come from leaving in college. For sure. He's a great, great addition. How about another good name? You I who want to jump around a little bit? Race Bennett. He was another multier player, yes, and his father also. Hundred points. His Father Coaches at Union. You knew that right. Yeah, I was going to say I thought I remember US talking about him before. When I came across his name, I remember from all the showcases and then I thought dad was Rick Bennett. That's right. Yeah, Rick Bennett is a coach at Union who won a national title there a long time. Want to eat one of these years they went a national title. Whatever year the frozen four was in Philly, because I remember the union had Gosh de spare and he went side with the flyers like right after the frozen final force and for ended the ghost man. That's right, chee gossip spurreal. I think those fifteen. That was like we're around. was that right before, right after Yale? It was like a couple of years where Yale one, union one. It was like the yeah off schools. One of the National Championships. Yeah, they yeah, one sing still chaffs. Thank you. So go buckets. Yeah, so, yeah, I'll beat Quinn pact. That really had the big Q. You Guy. Yeah, really sucked. What if you having also a Qu lady the race? Bennet spent the seventeen, eighteen and eighteen nineteen seasons with what the apple core? Look at employer nine and Obbi Dad's Rick Bennett. Ninety five total games, eighty six total points, I mean six four to twenty. You knew where he was when he was on the ice and Dad, and dad's a big guy too. Yeah, so I guess where he got the size from, but he was. He was fun in our league and it was he had a chance to play nine games at Salem stay back in nineteen twenty. Obviously wasn't able to play this past year. So I guess that, telly makes him a junior this upcoming year, but a fun player one he was in the league. I want to go back to another Michael like the go with. To go with the MIA Leva might be the one. Oh, okay, we're gonna go Michael Carducci, who I honestly like. Between Him and Leva, I think they were the most underrated players in the league.

And when you say group that, when you say a players underrated, it makes it sound like he's not good. But I but I think under Ras. I think underrated. Yeah, exactly, I don't think they they just don't get the recognition that they should. Write like, I think they were two of the top, honestly ten fowards, at least in the week, like when they had a chance to when you have a chance to watch them, like they were good every time they had it or on the ice they were a threat to score, and I think we ended up to the ways of talking about them a lot. At frozen finals week. I remember the core coming up and like we had our our sessions of all the different coaches and staff hanging out, we do our hockey chats and stuff. I remember was talking about leaving Carducci a Goodam. Well, it's probably even notice, probably the eighty sevens telling us that Daddy Adam is how good those guys were. A couple of long nights of daddy that, of having a good yeah, full ones. Talking about the core. The next name that I remember, I wanted to mention badly, was Kyle Warren. Hi. He played for the apple core as it loads here. I got it seems like forever to go at this point, but seventeen eighteen and eighteen nineteen. I remember this eighteen nineteen season. There's a a goal that maybe they could pose for us so they can go back and find. He scored the game winner against Wilke Sperry someone in a playoff game where it was almost like bobby your like went end to end and then I had to like go like artstrings. Yes, got like tripped up while diving to try and to get on the far post. Like just a phenomenal go out. For some reason, I never will forget that playoff goal. It actually may have been this two thousand and seventeen eighteen year. I think that help play. The apple core beat Wilkes bare that year and then it was reversed the next year. But I remember Kyle Warren was like was like the guy and and there was a playoff overtime winner, I think it was against Wilkes Bury, where it was just like he was like full extension in the year getting it around the goaltender. And what's kind of funny is funny I've said. Well, I'd so en fortunate for him. He was supposed to go to will suffered an injury that kind of cut his career as playing career short, but now he's coaching in like oiver one. We've like kept in contact because he's now coaching. It's kind of like, you know, hey, if a spot opens up, I'd love to come coach in the League. It's like that's awesome. Okay, all right, it's and he's still young to so. Isn't it weird to like per due on the seahawks? Same thing when I see him next to Santa Bonio on the bench, or like Tode, I remember calling your games. You're still young, you barely have any facial are in your face like this. I don't know who it was really perdue with its yeah, there was someone and a lum over the weekend that got married and I was like how long have it in this lead, Dudey. I was like how long have I been in the League for, like married? He's like yeah, the first kid. Like oh wow, bb to be me to it right. Another four that I had circled on my shark going into this. I'm not sure I forget to remember this name or not. This was this kid was a stud during this middle years. You're beginning years. No, this is kind of middle. Oh, yes, I did have this kid circle yell, this one thousand nine hundred and twenty and like this kid was a wagon light. See, yeah, underrated a little bit, like Harry Danili Morose was like electric when he was in our league. You have fifty six points in forty one games. You and I and always have trouble with these European teams. It's playing for Billy Barspilla Triuska, and he's say he's playing pro, like I just remember, like because that year he came in...

...like shortly after we had finished the All Star Week against the college teams, and I wanted to be like, dude, why couldn't you get here like two weeks earlier, like because I used to like this kid is. He was six to not as hefty as you could say, as race beat it, but like fifty six points and forty one games, like he was damn it good. And I think I remember him too, because that was right we started Joel Fantasy. Somebody pick up. There was you that picked him. Yeah, problems, one of those like sneaky deal picks where he tries to go around the show and take a player from each team each week and kick our asses. So I remember rose being one of those guys. Yeah, great, that's a great selection. I had him. I was it's tough looking at this elite prospects less because there's so many knowledgeable, but she'll guys about. I got another name. We could bring it up for discussion. What about Toivo Kraemer? Same papery kind of kid top. Yeah, I mean I think he's been on a couple of teams. We added. You just jumped to last year, I think the chiefs. Chiefs. That's right, so maybe that's our onun tilty mentione or mention. Okay, let's see. He was pretty sure he was a captain at one point. The slot that we have no idea what to do with. We just figure it out on the fly every week. And what a perfect chief he became, though. Right if there were. Some of you looked at that. You just watch this game and you're like, yeah, he'll be achieved some day. That kid hits anything that moves. Toivo Kraemer tough, six two one hundred ninety six. He plays bigger than that. Yeah, well, I think let's hold that spot for right now. Let's also mentioned. There were four game winners in that season for Moros. Like he was that good, like he lists that good. He did a little bit of everything. I got another name for you. He was part of our seventeen eighteen all star team. Who I make a dad joke here? Let me get do it. It's name was Matthew Boring, and all right, guard thinks not. If Dave was not not boring, I don't like. I knew you're gonna make a joke like that when I saw this same just do was coming in. There was the good thing that he's not. Shouldn't? She ordered told me to end the recording and start over. But hear you, I can hear. You're doing your own color, comma, as you have be boring cars it into neutral zone in a very unhonoringly way. He had it up. He had forty one points in fifty one games. He was fun in our league. He put up, he put on a show when he was on the ice to as I mentioned, he was on that all star team just that single year, the seventeen eighteen season. But that you exciting for them on the board, baby. I named that. You can never forget nope, never. But like it's not like ever be bored of Mr Bory, like if I'm sure it growing up, like he got poked out a low pul, like it's dude, you're boory. It's like all right, yeah, I'm boring, whatever one. Let's check you up. What you go ahead, don't better than here. Still better than your hockey. So let's skate from one end of the ice of the other. See is for you after that. So the the mids, the next four that I wanted to put in here. I think you may have mentioned this earlier, and that's Callin, Callinan yes, a dimension and Iver. I remember like when Kyle started picking him and we all were kind of like who are you talking about? The Right, Oh, this kid's good. It's kids like really good, like kyle stunning report. We're like Whoa, like there were like look at this, look at this stretch. I'm highlighting a seven games stretch. Three hundred and sixty eight, tieven, thirteen, four thousand and fifteen sixteen points and in seven games, like it's just they were stretches where he just went off forty one points in thirty five total games. I'm not sure...

...if they've announced him as returning yet, but I know he is eligible. So they would love to bring him back, I am sure. But that's that's a kind of player that can really put the core on the map for this upcoming season. If they could keep someone like him, I would put him on the All star team right now. Should I call him up? Come on, Allen, Hey, are you? You want to be on this Socia, commissioner, he what Havn here? How are you, sir? You want to be on this year's All Star Team? You can come back right now. We're ripping through the forward chef, ripping through we got four crew. We have four left and we want to go back to some of the beginning middle. Look at this d that just showed up where I we're talk. We've already covered this. But like, we can't put Matt Gilroy on the all time apple core list like we want to. But he never play the h shell. He played the EJ shell right like I know he played in the play the NHL a long time. That's like Gilroy. Wait, what if we put Matt Gilroy on and we're doing like all apple core? Do you know Robs Kadary? Yes, do you know do you know which ehl coach would be? Like, I have to be on that. Sorella. Yes, Mr Solar Beard Solf was, I believe. I bet you. I bet you. He gives us a hard time still for not putting them on this. I'm like, Chris, you never played in the EHL. Like like your in your s, you'd never played in the Ash. Yeah, so, Chris, we love you, but yeah, you didn't play Hil. Sorry, Buddy. Let's first sole bears. Let's throw Mike Catchy Otto on this list. He was a leading scorer in the sixteen seventeen season. Yep, it was on the list. Could pick. Look at those. You know what, they've always liked this jerseys. They kind of have red wings, they kind of have that red wings. Be You just like yeah, simple and basic, but like powerful, like like bull. Basic, powerful, but doesn't like does the new RISCA commercial at this doesn't be yous just say like Boston on the front all. I maybe it does stay university, but it's say, there's no logo, it's just be Boston University. Yeah, I mean he's put together like an insane club career. Like look at this. Sixty points in thirty eight games. So we'll still Mike Cashi Otto up there next, as I mentioned, just spend one season with the apple cores. Sixteen seventeen. Had Forty seven points in fifty two games that year. A decent name will again bring it up for discussion. Don't have the throne around there from that team member. Go You, Mura. What are you being? Another like real fast, slippery type. Was He on that room? He was. He was on the sixteen seventeen. There he is. Where do you go afterwards? Where did he go? He went to rough riders. NOPE, Boston junior rangers. Ask for I remember him more for the Rangers that I do see on their hlp championship team. Now is on the easteen nineteen team and moved on to Wesleyan. Should I tell a story? Up Story Time. I won't use a lot of names. Okay. He was chripping back and forth with a player one time across the rink, and hockey guys don't do that, and he said to this player, that player x, my family is so rich I could buy you and I like. That's like an all time chirp right there. And Oh yeah, make fun of me, I'll buy you that's like, excuse me, that was awesome. Well, yea, I feel like...

...that was shut up like ninety percent of the I wouldn't know what to say. I don't think I would. I'll be like thank you, I'm flattered. I'm not. I'm not for I'm not, I'm not for sale. But okay, what do you offer? What's my off? What's my ass? FRICE? I'm looking for two hundred K. can you? Can You beat that? I remember when he said that I could actually hear it because it was like in between periods. I had the headst that off and I was like, you said, where do you go? Was it Wesley's Smart Kid, smart schoolers kids. Is like, I'm not gonna swear you, I'm gonna like, I'm gonna Mentally Screw with you, cut you down, down and I'm going to intelligently put you in your place. And that's what he did. I would buy you. That's excellent, no FBOMBS, just I'm gonna buy you, Y, look at buy you. That is it's one of my favorite time. It was awesome and that's that alone gets him, not just a speed of the ice. I cant see on the altimee threatening to buy guys is a threat, a right go you bere a love it. Let's let's put another Salem staate kid on next. We mentioned race Bennett earlier. was teammates with Connor Woly it with the Apple Court, now with Salem state. Overall, I caught Woolye, I should say donchist. There a wooly in the NHL. Was a Jason Willy Sabers. Isn't really maybe doesn't? It would show up right here on the EP page. But overall, played in seventy nine career games in the EHL, fifty seven points. Played a few more games his first year of stale state than race had, fourteen and twenty four. So a player. I would say keep an eye on this year because it's a chance to play a few more games in college, maybe in some awards there in the mask AC. Two thousand and seventeen to two thousand and nineteen his time. Knock up what again? But that's going to be fun to see back, isn't it? Thank God, D to d three, everybody ripping and roaring. We've actually done a decent job bouncing around here too, I think. So I just say we got any points because yet I mean this is what Recrdcuston, you were here before I was. Do you recognize that name, Ricardcuson? I think I did. That's from a showcase in a longe long. He was on the thirteen fourteen apple court team. What is taller was there at that time? I remember him. Yep, work hard, led the team in points and in penalty minutes. Fifty one points and in a hundred holy minutes. Welcome to the penalty box, Mr Kuson your I should think his ready. I should ask mark rump about this. Yet to playoff games. That Lat that year scored two goals and had twenty six pimps. So because, let's because he comes his email, let's type in K and see, Kae, you come right up. It's like, Oh yeah, he was in my office quite a bit for card good. So thirteen fourteen. You know what? That helps us kind of. I think they almost have one from every year at this point. So let's put him on here. Yeah, one thousandourteen and fifteen, nineteen twenty. Yeah, look at us, and that gives us one more forward. And I know we've kind of covered last year's team and we've used the WET EIVA card. Dudech we we use that underrated like got her too. Are you thinking about one from last season? This could this could be pretty unreal. For thing in the same exact thing here. Just we do a one, two three. Well, it's loading on my screen. All right. Well, one, two, three, Riskowski, Riscowsky, it's the one that's loading. Yes, dude, I can't see it. I swear to God, tall the people home, I can't see it. Things still. It's really it's like we're dating Jeff D Oh my God. But he rescouski, speaking of injuries, just went to kind of a stretch where he just couldn't, couldn't get back on the ice and, like every time I talked with those as rat's like this kid is potentially they deep...

...best forward in the league. He just he can't, he can't get back out there right now. So He's head into western New England, though, so hopefully he can kind of put up buckets of points. I mean we're time less year. I had them on my face s teams. I remember I took him because the court of Million Games. The second half, well he played. He would yeah, thirty nine points in twenty seven games, like he was dynamic he just couldn't. He was dealt with those injuries and, like I said, heading off to western New England this fall. So hopefully, pully, it drew's behind them. Yeah, and then can tear up the SECC. So two thousand and nineteen two and twenty one for him, beautiful first offense. been speaking of all stars. Ryan Leith, yes, I remember him. And good player they weren't. They didn't make the playoffs that year. As I type in Keith, not leath. They didn't make the playoffs the year that he was with the apple core and that all star. But he was like the most sought after guy at the trade deadline. Really, like everyone wanted this kid. I mean she was great, he was great. I mean he was so steady. Eighty eight career games, forty two points. Now is that sunny pots damn a New York kid like he honestly, like when we get to the all time lineup for Ehl, like I know it wasn't one of those d that put up this buckets and buckets of points and you know, Zeki Morose or whatever like like as steady as they came. He was one of the best defensemen in the league. Steadyo she goes, baby might be on the alltimer. I do remember him too. Is One of those names that jumps up. You remember. Yeah, and we mentioned curry a little bit earlier with Zach White, the flour that became the captain. There another player who I guess we'll call him underrated on the back end was Logan Scarlatta. HMM, and he spent two years with the apple core again for assistant captain. Some that he was just so rock solid, so rock solid, and he's at curry now and we'll get to see him this fall, I guess. US Peter Rowndy in the bunch. That's to dready Jeff. How about Mr Jimmy Mitler, James Mettler from my fantasy squad last year. He was good and I think they already announced he's returning to WHO JAMES COMING BACK TO TEAM JEFF FOR UHL? Fancy, I mean I pull up the pace. It's light. Mettler back with the core. He love it. He's another good player. He's been there two seasons of the week. I think this is your number two is gonna be here to or is this? or He's so he's only played one year before. I thought he's can't be your three, right. This is your three. Well, who, if you count, redounded a couple games in the eighteen nineteen year last year, a full season? No, sorry, at nineteen. Hold on, UND Ninety One, twenty two games, eighteen, nineteen year. Eighteen or nineteen twenty a full year. Two Thousand and twenty one a full year. So coming back for a third full year, it's almost like three point one. They's played right, you can't call it. You can't call it a fourth year. And actually, wait a minute, it was one of those guys to that's like a burden sprinpers type. Can you play forward? Antie? He's listed as D but why? Did I think he was one of those guys that they kind of flexed up? Maybe it is because they had somebody injuries last year. Look at those points he put up at the prep school. Forty five points. Was He played either? Seventeen goals twenty eight assists in seventeen games. He put up forty five points at the Harvey School and maybe, maybe, maybe, Oh heck...

...so. I mean, whore's the first peck and fantasy this year, is it? Well, Lauren, and I was gonna say Laurenpony did not play last year because I don't know if you go like worse to first. We do like well, NFL drafts. Yeah, we probably have to give them first pick. So I don't know, Saybe as you go third and fourth. Yeah, we we will not remind them of Thatler, because one of us wants to take metler early on. That's this episode. Yes, that's D so far quick again, it's I can't look at it on this page because there's so many players in the history of of the apple core. Right. Good Waller wits he was another one. Yeah, what year was that? He was one thousand nineteen twenty. Yes, moved on to Nathan Waler Witz, one of your arms, it comes off the tongue. I forget what he went to it. We went to Finlandia and Landia he started actually with the revolution and then moved over to the apple core. Can I pull up career stats here? I can. There it is eighty two career games, twenty seven points, game winner in there. I get another steady player gets a chance to play in college this year, so let's throw him on the list. Hmm, one thousand nineteen twenty season as Jeff Lessam there down to to d and utility that we maybe we'll go back to that goalie conversation that we were having. MMM, Drayton tador off is returning. He put up ten points last year. Will Big Pims Guy? WHOO, we don't. We don't count PIMS though on the on fantasy. If we did, I think we'd probably lock him in every week. Somebody. But a right, let's see we here. We can't provoke fighting. That would be too too much fun for us to go into the rinks and just we just start walking everybody bick hey, you don't get in a fight today, I'm gonna buy you. Oh my UN as the famous go ye mirror said, drop the gloves today, are a buying you look all right. Drop it, I Jeff, I got a make it us. It was like, and I confirmed it with the player who he said that to you. I said, did he say what I think he said to you. He's like he did, and I still don't know how to respond, like yeah, I think I just found another name for the wayback machine on the Gilroy Path. That that just say Douglas Murray from the Hood Sharks. He played them in eight and ninety nine. Let mean, yes, one for the HL was. Look how many players have played junior a hockey in the history of the apple core, like for the franchise, like it's just crazy they have that much of a history. Let's see here. What do I say? We have left. We have to do. You left Glen Pupa. Why don't I remember his name too? I think he was an early corps. Think he was like beginnings. Might be a point streak. I love an you bring I love when you bring up the point streak. Leod be a point streak guy. Go with John O'Brien next. He was another player who spent time of the apple core and then I advanced on to western New England. John played for the sixteen seventeen apple core actually began the year but the little flyers and then moved all over, kind of a change of scenery. Put Up Twenty points in forty two games. So let's go John o'briant. Next it was a bobcat royal. One point to it says. They're another one that you love to bring up, another favorite of one for the we are not remember it haunting me and showcases and I'm like, Oh, the New...

York bobcats royals, although it is a play byplay man's tree, because then you can switch up. You can say bobcats, royals New York, you can use the three different names that they had to kind of write change it up. Any who. So we got one D left. HMM. What's funny here? I just saw remember we talked about Nick Nolt, who played for the apple core, and then, well, because we touched on that two weeks ago, whatever sea coast was, it was nick nalt Drew Ed. I remember dread too, because then he, Yep, he jumped to sea coast. I'm going to search a name here. Hold on one second. There are a pair of brothers who played for the apple core and both moved on to the Milwaukee School of Engineering, I believe. So this is Haydn Dalton, who was the D he played for the apple core seventeen to nineteen. Good Signal. You're for him. For some reason. I think I'm blanking with a Tanner Dalton. Yes, I was correct. There's been so many. There's been so many players over the years that I surprised myself at times. And you're sober, you see a damn, you get like MDESIA, whoa. Here's a question. Do we put one Dalton brother on the team and not the other? Oh, three, do we stack their stats next to each other George them accordingly? Or so? Tanner was the forward, Haydn was the defenseman. I think Hayden will definitely be our Sixth D here. Hayden, as I mentioned, played on the to, on the seventeen, eighteen and eighteen nineteen teams. I remember just him being steady. Now plays at the Milwaukee School by engineering. was coached by a former apple core coach and Graham Johnson, Grim Jones, Yep, remember Graham. He played in some playoff games too. So notable that he was on a couple of core teams and made it to the playoffs. I don't know if we have a spot though, too with the brew put the Bro In, put Taynor and sorry, man, I don't know. I'll do. We just started conversation at the dinner table. You think. Hey, did you see the O Jeff's post last week? I made it, you did it. And then that gets us to the utility and you know what I kind of I think. I just totally agree with you, Jeff, for what he did last season. I think that we'd be remiss to not put Jackson Bernard on this list. Look at those shots on goal. He faced over onezero shots. Ladies and Gentlemen, I wonder thousand pucks cave his way like in and like. What was his smallest day of work? Is that? Nineteen saves? I see, we only played one period, never month. Yeah, I means for seven hundred fifty five, sixty, seventy two shots on goal. What was that? I think that's part of the apple core style play last year to with some of the fords that they had. It kind of just turn into a little bit of a running gun style, right. I mean I know when they got mashed up against the the rough riders, like a little baseball scores was like six. Those are some fun games to go to. But you know some of the Games that he won here, like you know this, this three win stretched in a row, right, gave up three and three and two. Forty three saves, thirty six saves, thirty one saves. Here's a forty six save effort. pusy shots. Here's a sixty five save effort, like I remember that because that was against the eighty sevens. I think Maddie and joy were telling us about that. I think I gave him Goale of the week here when he swept Maryland with forty six saves and then forty one saves. So I mean he put the team on his back at times this past year, heading off to Augsburg this fall. And that's dad. He's an age out, that's right.

And that gives us the lineup. arenal original six team forward unit, Zach White, Michael Leva, Ray Spennett, Michael Carducci, Kyle Warren, did Nilo Morose, Matthew Boring, Colin Calinan, Mike Catchi Otto, Connor Willee. You said this, Damn, not me, so I'll let you say it, Ricard Houston, who says okay, leave, I didn't. I didn't know that one. I'm glad you said it. I was book. That was before I go on the lead. There was Jason Raskowski, defensive core, Ryan Leith, Logan Scarlatta, Jimmy Mettler, Nathan Wallerwitz, John O'Brien and Hayden Dalton, goaltenders Blake Watch tellah, Tim Sestak and Jackson Bernard. So that does it for our apple core lineup. Coming up next week, episode eighty seven, featuring the final team of the week feature the New Jersey Eighty seven sis going meal like they have for all these years. Keeps you up at night and, because yeah, keeps you very happy smiling. That's of a tree. That's a people think. Can't wait for that. We'll talk to you then, Jeff. See you the neal. Thanks for listening to the show. Learn more at Eastern Hockey League Dot Org and follow us on Facebook, twitter, instagram and Youtube. Also, be sure to subscribe and get notified when next week's PODCAST is released.

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