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Team of the Week (Avalanche) | Episode 79

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On this week's episode of the #EShow we feature a program that's placed 72 players into college, dating back to their inception into the league in 2017. Coming over from Hartford, Chris Cerrella helped establish an instant contender when he arrived in New Hampshire (1:27). Along with the impressive commitment totals that the Avalanche have posted, they've also appeared in all 3 Championship Games that the league has hosted at the EHL Frozen Finals. After winning it all in 2018 and 2019, Cerrella and the Avalanche lost to the Rangers in overtime this past March, thus, the revenge tour has begun for this upcoming year. With tons of talented players that have come through the program, the #ECrew wraps up the episode by taking their best crack at assembling the latest all-time lineup (26:45).

Welcome to the e show with NeilRaven. With over one thousand NCAA commitments, the EH L is the proven pathto college. Turn it up and learn more about the college placement leaderat the division two and three levels. Welcome to the east show, presentedby the penalty box foundation. The foundation's mission centers around their daily motto wetake care of our own as they help out all of those within the hockeycommunity who've experienced a catastrophic event. Learned more at penalty box foundation dot Org. What's up? My name is Neil Raven and this is episode number seventynine of the east show, and on this week's episode we feature a programthat's placed seventy two players into college, dating back to their inception into theleague in two thousand and seventeen. Coming over from Hartford, Christrella helped establishan instant contender when he arrived in New Hampshire. Along with the impressive commitmenttotals of the avalanche have posted, they've also appeared in all three championship gamesat the League has hosted at the EHL frozen finals. After winning it allin two thousand and eighteen and two thousand and nineteen, crilla and the avalanchelost the Rangers and overtime this past March. Thus the revenge tour has begun forthis upcoming year, with tons of talented players that have come through theprogram the e crew wraps up the episode, but taking their best crack at assemblingthe latest all time line up. I'm enjoying now by Chris Sorella,the head coach and general manager of the New Hampshire Avalanche. Has it going. Chris, good meal, thanks for having me on last summer at yourhouse, this summer at my house for your team of the week feature.You're the only coach that I do this live with. Well, we're livingwhat like four and a half miles away from each other now, so it'skind of convenient and, as you said at the finals, I am yourneighbor, not the other way around. Yes, I lived here first.Yeah, so definitely you are my neighbor, even though we're in my wife's hometown. It okay, fair enough. Still there. Still my neighbor.So let's jump into last season. Obviously one of the most challenging years we'veever had as a league. There's so many different parts to dive into,but when you look back on what was only your fourth season but the NewHampshire avalanche. What are the positives they take away from last season? Imean just getting through and playing for about forty two regular season games and thenplayoffs in the final four and just everything was was fantastic. I think thatthat in itself was amazing. Our League did all the right things, wemade all the right moves, all the teams were terrific. It just justthe biggest positive was finishing the year for the players and I think that waseveryone's key to start. Yes, so there was. It wasn't perfect,but it was. It was. It was great experience for everyone. It'ssomething would probably never experience again, but to have that under our belt andknow that we can make it through almost just about everything at this point,it was an amazing thing for our leak and what I do on this podcasta lot as I like to go on and talk about when people were right. So I will admit on this podcast today that at one point during thefall last year you had said to me we're going to play just within ourdivision this season and I said, Oh, let's keep giving it time, keepgiving it time. You were right. After after we turn the calendar year. You played just the same three teams over and over and over again. How challenging was that, knowing that when you went to a game itwas out again to the wolves, the Spartans of the lumberjacks? I thinkit was good and bad, right. I mean we took a toll oneach other, all of us, coaches, players league, I mean playing thesame teams over and over again, but at the same time it wasbetter than not playing at all. So the the fact that we did breakinto the divisions we had the availability to do so, was a great idea. I was right, just like you are, my neighbor. I'm rightabout that too. You know, it was just awesome how were able tohave that set up for the players and it worked out great, I think, for every team. So going back, it was awesome. A lot ofbumps, a lot of bruises for the players, but we made itand it was a great great results and for the crew that was on thepodcast last year, I said all year long the North Division was the toughest. After night one of the finals, I was pounding my chest. I'msure you were as well. What made the four teams so tough? Ithink it was just so competitive. They're there, the coaches were competitive,the players were competitive. Every game was a war, basically, especially inthe second half. You know, Vermont, who didn't play a lot early,on them coming in. They had a lot to prove and the wolvesgot better with the Adams got better. Spartans, you know, my opinion, were probably the most improved team. Coach try to get a great jobwith that team there down the stretch and it just every day was a battle. It was competitive then. It's the players loved it and when we rearrangedthe format to that divisional onement that we were talking about, it became veryclear and made a very clear to everyone...

...what the at large was all about. So it's get the elephant in the run was covered right now, becauseyou went to the finals as the at large. Yes, obviously the restdid prove to help you, but at the same time, with that weekoff, something then no one's ever gone there before. Yep, how didyou reset your team's focus and almost convince them that they had as good achance as anyone? Yeah, I think what you know. I to behonest with you, I think what happened. You know, we were playing thesame teams over and over again and it was almost at times we lostourselves in our identity a little bit, I think, and you know,taking the beatings that we took down the stretch, that we got beat upsome games, and taking that beating down the stretch I think just rejuvenated ourguys in that week off and you know, we just revamped and, you know, went over our systems again, had fun again and it worked outwell. I thought we played really well in the final four. We werelucky enough to get there and I thought we played really well and when thefirst game ended, I remember looking to my right from with a broadcast perspectivewas and George McMichael grabbed, I'm what I would assume would be a monkeyoff his back and threw it up into the year. Did you see himdo that or was yeah, yeah, we George and I had talked aboutthat a little bit before because he struggled a little bit down the stretch.He was great for us all year. I think he was an MVP forUS type player. You know, he's going the boat next year, whichis a great pick up for them, and George was just awesome all yearand he just hit a Scurti is back, was bothering them a little bit andhe just struggled to make the big saves he was making early on.So to see him get that win and I think it was a breath offresh air for him, but it was also a breath of fresh air forus knowing we had that guy back that we knew we had. So itwas it was really good. It was. George has done a lot of funnythings there in the crease all year, so that one definitely was one ofmy favorites. You win that game against the eighty sevens, you winthe next game, nine hundred and twenty three, against the lumberjacks, whichreally he looked back at the lumberjacks games prior to that. They had yournumber down the stretch. And you get to the third game of the rains. It actually at that point doesn't really matter because you knew you were stillin a championship. And then we get to the off day and you andrich come up to me and say we're going to take the at two hoursof ice that you have and we're going to skate together. Yep, whatwent through that thought process? Well, I think it's something rich and Ihave done, you know, in the past and our by weeks in thepast, you where we were fortunate enough to get the first round by,we would scrimmage each other. So I think we just kept with that kindof same concept. We've done it just about every year. We hadn't hadthe chance to do it during the covid season or, you know, duringthis last year, so we said why not, you know, and Ithink both our teams had gotten along. I mean, you know, wehadn't seen each other all year and I think it was just a great thingto have the that available of availability, to be able to do that withanother team. I think it just speaks volumes for the organizations and also theplayers. And the best part about it was we were at the rink thatday anyways because of the ehlp games that were going on, and your twoteams take the ice together and Joe Bartania pulls me aside and goes what's this? I go they chose to do it together. I go, what doyou tell me? Be See and be you never skated together for the hockey'schampionship and because, I guess it shows how much they truly respect each otherand you play things out and get to the championship game. Unfortunately it endedin a loss for you. But when you take a step back and yousee that we've had three frozen finals and three championship games and you've been inall of them, how does that make you feel really good. I thinkit just shows the organization that we run, the recruiting that we do. Youknow, we had nineteen NCAA division three placements on our team this year, so you know we had a good team and so did the Rangers,obviously. So it was I think it it really lived up to it itsheight, I guess you could say that game. It was a really goodgame, back and forth. Either team could have won and but to bein it three years like that, it's I don't know if it's good luckor what, but but you know, it was a good job by bothteams and it was a great job by all the teams in entire league thisyear, whether they made the frozen finals or not. I think it wasjust a special year. And September eighteen you're playing again. You guys alwaysplay sometimes towards of air beinning of the year. Why? Just because,just because I think it's it's become a pretty good rivalry in terms of youknow the players and it. Why not? Why not continue that trend? Ithink both teams like that. You can, you know, you canplay another very good team early and so why not? Why not continue it? And you brought it up a second ago. You had nineteen commits thispast year. In Four Seasons you have seventy two commitments. Quick Math,you're over fifteen a year. What do you attribute that success to? It'sto be honest, if it's a players,...

...you know, it goes back toour recruiting, though. You know we we recruit in season a lotand we do our due diligence and it's just recruiting. It's we're taking theright guys, but then those guys are doing the two we're just developing them, giving him the opportunity that that the ned both on the ice, offthe ice and in the gym, and they're going out and doing the workevery day. So I mean it's definitely goes back to recruiting, but thoseplayers are earning it every step of the way. And I want to diveinto a few of the ones in particular from this past year, because you'reproud of every single commitment, as you could hear the dog panting in thebackground. Last year it was your dog in the garage, this year it'smy dog at my house. But there's so many commits that you're proud of. But there's a few that I want to touch on because you brought upGeorge earlier. To see a player who, in his first year with your programhis rule isn't as big as it was the second year, and thencommit to a school that's as prestigious as Bowt it, you have to dopat yourself in the back at some point, right. Yeah, I mean Ithink George believed in the process. He came in. Essentially he wasour third guy. He did the work, he bought in, he he competedall year, he got some games in and then we actually put themon. He finished the year on the EHL premier team and then the followingyear we call them up and said you're the guy, we're going to handyou this ball. Are you ready? He obviously had a fantastic offseason andwhile what a season he had this year, I don't you know. Yeah,he had a couple of games where he struggled, but who doesn't throwout throughout a course of a year. But he was fantastic from start tofinish, from the from the first safe to the last save of the year. He was great. He improved, just a great young man. Hebelieved in himself, he believed in our process and now he's going a boatin the NESCAC, a great hockey and great academic institution. So who's betterthan him at this point? And that's a two year guy right. Sothat let's cover the three year guy, because you really haven't really had thatmany three year guys in your history. But we can't get through a wholeavalanche podcast and not talk about Chris arrant, who was your captain and honestly,to me he was probably one of the toughest players who are had inthis league period. Yeah, Chris is a warrior, he's a he's goingto be a fantastic college hockey player, but he has that old school mentality. He plays the game right. He you know, he finish his checks, he competes, he gets in guy's faces, he does all the rightthings. He does it obviously legally. He doesn't take a lot of penaltiesand things, but he plays on the edge and he's our captain for twoyears in a row there and probably one of the best captains that I've everhad. I've had a lot of really good ones, Shane Visnik, who'sjust graduated brockport. It was another one who was one of my captains,Chris, I think you know, and Chris did a better job. Ithink he was just awesome. He held our team together, he did theright things. He's a good young man on and off the ice and Iknow Jeff and are going to get into this later on. I don't wantto go too far into the details because every player in the hockey seasons long, but knowing what he was going through in the finals and to keep goingout there and it never bad and Iye. How did that make you feel asa coach? Yeah, Chris Battle some injuries in the second half andespecially down the stretch in the playoffs. He basically he had a broken footand it was just unbelievable how well he played, scored some big goals inthe final four. was tough as nails down the stretch. Practice the sameway every day no matter what. Wouldn't sit out and practice. He's justone of those guys that that did the job that he needed to do andand got better and better and that's going to make him who he is inthe next four years of Brockport. They're getting. They're getting a heck ofa hockey player, that's for sure, and a great family to yes,they never missed the game. No, no, they didn't miss a beat, that's for sure. And now. So that covers to there's so manyto cover. But the next one I want to bring up is a playerthat's actually coming back this year and that's Matt Carlson, who got committed towelks, but for this upcoming next fall. When a player has a chance likethat to commit quote unquote early but then stay with the program, areyou pushing them in a certain direction? I how do you how do youtake that on as a coach? No, I think I think it's awesome.I think it's becoming more and more popular now at the dthree level thatthey're you know, they're deferring a kid, letting them grow as a player.Let it. He had another year of Junior. They they liked him, he liked them. It was a perfect match. But they just didn'thave the room and you know, in in terms of stalls, and MattCarlson is to be honest with you, I believe he's this year. Couldbe one of the best two hundred four players in the eastern hockey league thisyear and might not show on the score sheet because you know he's not thatkind of player where he might have eighty and ninety points, but he isgoing to play the game in total and...

...and Wilkes stepping up and defend committingthem and deferring him shows that he is that good. And by having atleast commists, they do every year. You know that you have to kindof reload the roster. If you have a fifteen commits, you reloading almosttwo those of your roster every year. But any have players like Christian Halbigwho could come back but are going to school a year early, do youkind of have to kick yourself and say, I'd love to have them back,but he should go now. Yeah, I mean I think we do thatevery year. Last year we had jk Edo who went to tops.We also had aid and Leavette who went to tops. They both could haveplayed this year. We were love to have them. Matt Matt Lane anotherone who went to Stevenson. He could have played this year as well.We would allowed to have him back to but the name of the game iscollege commitments. I think that's what makes an organization in junior hockey. Playerswant to play to go to college hockey. That's it. That's why they playjunior and it's not my job to hold a kid back just so Ican have a better team the net. My job is to recruit new playersand to develop them and get them off to the next level. So ifthe college coaches think he's ready, then he's ready. So unfortunately we loseChristian Hell Bang on the Blue Line, but FITCHBURG state games are great one. So you know, it's I think it's a perfect kind of set up. Yeah, and I want to die now into your EHLP team, becausethe EHLP team is nozzles the EHL team. You when you guys first came in, you and Mario, you were focused just on the EHL team.Then you bring in the EHLP team and I know it's kind of hard tosay, but you haven't. You had a couple of very good seasons thathaven't ended the way that you've wanted to. Based off of a championship last year, the regular season champions, but to be able to bring in Vinny, a former player of years, and to add that core underneath your ehlteam, how important has to been for the organization as a whole? Well, I think it's awesome and I'll touch on Vinnie just viny has done agreat job for us at the EHL and the hlp level. Obviously is myassistant with the AHL team and then head coach of the EHLP team, andhe's done a great job with that team and developing those players and he's donea great job moving them on, whether it be moving up to our EHLteam or helping them to move on to club hockey or to another junior teamsomewhere else. He's done a great job with that and it's been a greataddition for us because we've gotten some really good players to just move through theranks. So it's really been awesome. Alex muther's box, Timmy Cronan fromcouple of years ago, guys like that would playing on our you a team. Well, now that we have the premier team, we're moving you know, we've moved up Connor Murray, we've moved up backster Kimball, we've movedup George McMichael Carson, father bothering am this year we have Kyle Dan movingup, we have Josh Martin moving up, we have Brendan Schmidt, who hada great season at the EHLP level. We had Graham Hassam as well movingup. So that gives us automatic recruiting. So is it going toproduce US fifteen, sixteen kids every year? No, it's not. But willit produce a good amount of kids to come in and be good ehlplayers? Yes, it does. It gives us that availability, which Ithink is huge. The last name you said, Graham has son, tobe able to bring up the EHLP MVP. Is Their pressure on him? Ithink so. A little better, a little bit of you will.Yeah, I mean he's he did a great job. He's another one thatbelieved in the process. He could have probably left our team and went somewhereelse at any point during the year because he was good enough, but hebelieved in the process and when we spoke to him at the end of theyear and we said, Grahamy had a great year, we want to bringyou up, he was like great, because I don't want to go anywhereelse. So it was perfect and and I think there is a little bitof pressure on them, but I think he's going to answer the bell.I think he's gonna have a great offseason. He's a great young man and we'revery excited to bring them up. And you brought up vinny and I'mglad you did because he's a former player of yours. I don't want tomake you feel old with this next question, but you know, when he gotvd Got Jim Moss, so Mike Lee, se colochy in the NA. Now to see so many of your former players become coaches at some point, if it takes some prod yeah, I mean we had those guys,plus we had Jake Rivera, who is at Nazareth for a year or twoas an assistant coach. He played for me as well. So Mike Monty, who was a former assistant coach of mine who's out, and you eighteenChicago Young Americans, and Ryan McGrath, coach for me, and Walpole.So it just it's fun to watch these young men come up and and findsuccess in their own coaching career. So it's been kind of cool to haveboth the players that have played for me and gone on and had successes,but also the former coaches that have coached with me as well have had thosesuccesses too. When those guys face you, do you feel like you're getting thebest effort you can from those teams because they want to beat you?Oh, no, question, no, but no question at all. JimmyMaso's done a great job with Vermont and he tells me all the time.He's I just want to beat you and...

...as well. Thanks, I appreciatethat. You know it's but it's good. It's good and and you know they'rethey're great about it too, because we laugh about it and but they'regreat about I feel. Yeah, they do, and I'm happy that theydo that. I think it shows that they're cut from a good cloth andthey want to compete and be the best they can. So it makes meproud. No question. One of the reasons they want to beat you isbecause of the three championship games, two titles, his seventy two commitments.What keeps you motivated to keep doing it? You know, it's just passion forthe game. I was fortunate to have a good playing career and thingslike that, and now it's like I'm giving back and it's awesome. Andnow my reward is really going to US college hockey online on a Friday Saturdaynight and seeing former players scoring goals and having assists and winning rookie of theyears or whatever they're doing. It's great to see that. I think that'sthe biggest reward. And you know, when that time comes at some point, I think I'm fifteen, sixteen years in this year. When that timecomes, I don't know, get a job doing something else. But butit hasn't come. I still have a lot of passion for it, butdeveloping the players and watching what they do in the future is really why Ido it. And that's really what you always say to me. When youlook back and you talk about the wins and the loss is, you alwayspoint out that it took you eleven years, correct, to even reach the semifinals. Yes, that that is correct. It took me eleven yearsto reach a semi final game. We've always lost in the quarter finals.Always have pretty good teams with college commitments, but eleven years into coaching junior hockey, and I think this is, you know, year fifteen. Ibelieve it took me that long to get past the semi finals and finally wina championship. So it took a long time to get there and that stuffis all great and the wins, the losses, the championships is all goodstuff, but it's not really my career anymore. It's two players that playfor me. So to see them have that success and then move on,that's why I coach. It brings us to a broader point of us asa league being just a handful of commitments away from saying, a new record. And you look at obviously you're a program at nineteen, and then youhave some teams that had more wins than they did commitments this past year.To me that shows how competitively the League is right. Yeah, I thinkthat the League's done a great job this year, especially a and and covidwith the recruiting is a little bit different right now. There's a setback.There's too many players out there right now. So for our lead to achieve that, every single team had a pretty darn good number and NCAA commitments,was fantastic. Every team improved and and that's what makes our leak so good. It's the the stability of no it's it's no players and families knowing comehere to our league, to any of our teams, and find success you'relooking for at the NCAA level. That's the biggest thing that kind of sticksout from our from a lage perspective. So fast forward now and we're inthe beginning of March of two thousand and twenty two, and you can predictthat you've got fifteen commitments in the bank at least. So it's another repeatear for the avalanche, and I know that's your top priority. But theplayoffs are about to begin. Is there going to be an extra fuel andear fire at that point to get back and make up for what took placeat this past year's championship? Um, I yeah, I mean, Iguess so. I think that for me, the college commitment thing as always first, but you also want to be competitive and you want to you know, there's still that fire inside me that wants to do well. And Yeah, you know, I think you know. We lost an overtime. There wasa heartbreaker. It what a game and to get back to the championshipor get back to the final four and do it all over again, it'sa lot of fun. That's one thing that I can say throughout this experiencein the eastern hockeyaue. I think I'm the longest tenured Guy Coaching in thisleague at this point. I think the over the experience every year is awesome. It is it's a fun leak to be in, it's a fun leakto coach and and it's a fun leak to play in. So yeah,there is a little bit of me that still has that that drive to bethe best that I could be and I think by creating the final so whatwe've done we've made an event that kids want to be a part of andyou and you go. You look at the roster they're bringing in this year. Obviously has a bunch of new guys to fill those spots that you lost, but with the kids that you're bringing back. The HASHTAG revenge tour cameout pretty quickly. was that something that came out in the closing the exitmeetings, or is that the room they after the short weeks after I thatwas a Parker Son Dad Hashtag that he sent me as he did a littlevideo for the returning players that he kind of put, you know and everydaylife of an ad video out to the returning guys and I think I believeI shared it with you, Neil and and it was just a video ofthe finals and the final four, the...

...just, you know, the processthat we had and he did a great job making and at the end hewrote revenge tour, and I think it was kind of cool. You know, I think they got a little bit of fire. They felt they got, you know, it ended a little short for them and that's great thatwe got that group of returning guys that will want to do really well andshow the next group of ABS what it takes to get there for a programthat's had as much success as you've had. I guess that to me proves thatwe've built something right if these guys are that motivated that they got togo out and get their revenge. So this is this is the typical timeof year where I know at this point your kind of goal. It isJuly fourth to have your team kind of almost set in stone. Is thatbecause of the marathon? That is the season you like to have, youknow, a month or so to kind of decompress and prepare. What goesto your mind with that? Yeah, I try to. I try toget my team done pretty early. You know, we we like I said, we recruit during the season and, you know, we get out thereand we see players and we do our networking and we like to spend theofficers. I like to spend the offseason at home. I like to spendthe offseason in my pool, on my floaty and just hanging out, youknow, and hanging out with my kids and doing things with my kids andyou know, because once the season starts it's you know, I'm with myplayers more than I'm with my family. So, you know, spending thattime with them is great. We're going on vacation here coming up in acouple of days and it's I try to get things done that I can spendtime with them. Well, I hope that you can get out to thefloty for a few days he before vacation and enjoy the rest of the offseason. Yeah, thank you. Know, I'M gonna I'm definitely going to thanksagain to Chris Serella for coming on the podcast this week. Always entertaining whenI have well, actually, I have to say I'm his neighbor, notthe OA where I almost said my neighbor on. No, I'm his neighbor, right, Jeff. Yeah, do have to get the awards show recordingback up for you. That very quickly and probably about less than a minuteand maybe thirty two seconds in that you are his dber. He's been therefor years, long time, right. was there anyone more excited when theyarrived at the hotel in Philadelphia? I probably not the most excited to bethere. Most excited to get off the bus. The kids are probably realexcited to, you know, get away from his his gaseous state that hemay leaves on the bus. It was. It was a happy separation for all. Sure, they were all excited, though, right. Soh Yeah,but Chris the most will say. Yep, and a weird year forChris and Mario and the ABS. Huh It was. It was a weirdyear. It was one of those years where, I guess I brought itup last week. I got to say it again this week. The NorthDivision was the toughest. All right, we're saying it again for Christa herethere, for the lumberjacks. We Sare for wolves. Were saying of theABS have just parted. They were. They were so hot in the beginningof the year that, yeah, in a way you had to feel likethey were maybe the favorites of the time to win the regular season championship.Well, they're with their past. To you know, I mean first twoyears you won the cup. Third Year you were looking like we're going togo to the frozen finals. COVID unfortunately canceled it. So I mean,yeah, just look at that. I mean they have not had a badteam. Last year was their quote unquote, because you can't see us bad team. They were up at and let's like will say, we said itlast week with the lamberjacks. will say it again this week, like ifthere was ever a playoff series that we needed, that we need to seethat we didn't get to see, it was the two thousand and nineteen twentybattle for what have been what would have been a ticket to the finals,lamberjacks versus APPs, like that would have been the best series, because thatwas like you. I mean even Jim said it, Jim Muscle, likethat was the best lumberjacks team he thinks he's ever had against the team thathad won two in a row. So it's like is the is the newdog going to take over? Is it the old guy there's going to stickaround and obviously unable to do that. Both teams found a way to getthere this year. Obviously a very, very unique way for the avalanche toget there. Will hopefully not going to what never have to have an atlarge again. But you knew going into it, once they got their ticket, they weren't going to just show up and roll over. They were goingto show up and make a statement. And and they almost made a veryloud statement. They almost. They did, they did. I mean they gotthere, they got all the way there and I mean, I knowwe're going to talk about goalies at some point, but what a weekend,George, we all said, George, of Michael Byne have been the bestgoalie that whole weekend. You want to start from back to front this week, can we? The goalies are kind of exciting with this team, andI always say it every year, but how are they only been around forfour years? Doesn't feel like they've been around for forty years. Yeah,Chris makes it feel like that, right, Chris, Cinema Ario. So whatwhat makes it tough, right is...

...you just mentioned George McMichael. There'sa he was there one hot second, Hot Flash, and the EHLP fora year. EHL for a year voting college. Right. Goodbye. Thankyou. Thank you for your time. I'm about he's not that. Idon't think he's the best goalie and avalanche history. He's not. I don'tthink so. I think Nathan pick it is. I think Nathan pick itis as well, but one that he had when they when he led themto their second title. Right. Remembers our last providence appearance. Remember thestats I gave you and you are like are these accurate? I was like, yes, those are. So you're about to read those out loud andthey are accurate. You like, I don't want to sound like an idios, like no, these are a hundred percent accurate. Yeah, it's like, are you reading from like NHL? What was it two thousand and nineteenthat we were in? It sounded like video game stats. It did notsound real. They went a perfect six and oh that postseason, right.They took care of business and a pair of playoffs series, or their oneplayoff series, and then went on to the frozen falls one. All fourgames. They're a perfect six and oh with a one seven goals against averageand then five eight save percentage and a couple of shot outs to like andand honestly, his worst game of that postseason was the championship game. Remember, it was him versus the goalie of the year, Brennan Brawley, andI the end of the first period we're like it's too too and each teamhad like eight shots, like what is going on? That's when the flyerthat another team with the wagon of goalies that you're they browy, and thenmclarnen, who pitched a goose egg. Is the backup that year was eighteenand no. So it was goalies everywhere. And Yeah, but see, thatwas the thing about that. I have see him to the pick.It carried them for, you know, the entire playoffs and during the year, and then the team picked him up in the championship game. Now hedidn't play bad, but he said his worst game of that playoff. SoI think we're going to do this. There's twelve. Bay has to bejust twelve goalies to have played a game for the avalanche. Ess Right,and we're gonna they do blast through them, but they end up finding someone.Like the first couple weeks it's always like the revolving door, like thisguy, nope, next, this guy next, and then I'll send Bam. So let's let's put Nick Michael and pick it right, and then lady, and then that gives us time to come back to pag Luca and Sworgio, who was the duo that led him to their first championship. Right,you got Matt Lane. Well, Verisso was a multiple year goalie for themand then Matt Lane was caught. I feel like Matt Lane Played The twothousand and nineteen twenty season and then came back with an alter ego and Nathanpick it the following year. Hey, literally with the same exact person.They were so common that and made every single safe. Well, let's startwith McMichael and pick it. Okay, then we'll get we'll come back toit. Let's do it. Well, I gotta put pick it first.Heaven. Having the utility is important for this, because I think it's gonnahave to go goalie. But as we're going to get to the other spotsto they've had a lot of really good forward and defense. When to Ialready pretty much filled up the six defense pretty quickly. I rip. Therewas like Oh, boom, boom, boom, sons, sonsa, andwe don't have to worry about coach right, because there's only been one coach,because you imagine, we didn't pick them though. Now, if it'scoach team Italy, Mario Martin. Yeah, hello, chrystal. Catch you.Let's go to forwards next, all right, and leading score from NewHampshire, toughest nails, Tim Cronin. Tim Cronan, I he have tobe on this list. Yes, criple digits in his career and like fourgames hunder something points. I forgot he's put up that many points because theyare not usually a team that has those guys that put up buck is ofpoints besides him. And then another guy that I know will get to afterhim the or in the in the four years of the avalanche, whenever someonesays to me, like who were the scorers in team history, there's onlytwo names that ever come to mind, wiggle kerb rat and Jake my man. Those are the only two guys that ever like, whenever I think oflike scores for the avalanche, those are the two guys. Will's first nameis Michael. Right then we established that. I think. I think it's realfirst name as Michael. Let's say. That's a quick story time. Fromwhat I thought he was from. What I think? I I thoughthe was from like the Zech Republic, and pretty just like yeah, he'sfrom California. He could be more California. It was like live on one ofour podcast episodes, Yash, last year, two years, I think. I think. I think you're right. I thought he was from the checkwiggl Kurb Brat. I mean, look at that. Doesn't sound likea you know, a name from California. But when, when you're kid,when you change his first Hando what it actually is? Not His nicknameor Michael. There we go now it's you from California, broke yes.So, speaking of tough ass nails, Chris Arnts, Oh, I wasgonna say he has to be a top three Tammy. We love you,we're going to miss you. Next year his we don't, don't, wedon't swear off and on this podcast,...

...and I've determined that this is nota swear. Chris Aaron's was a gigantic pain in the ass for everybody likesyou. He would stand in front of the net and you'd be like,if you were a defensemen, you'd be like like, what are you doinghere? Your get out of tiny compared to me right. Chris arrands isfive foot nine, but he would put. You would plant both of his feetand he would not. You couldn't move him. It's like a cinderblock and like he scored. I think we had this story on this podcastto the third goal in that championship game against the little flyers. I willalways remember because he was the one in front that actually tipped Menda Zune shotin and men do zoo is celebrating at center ice, Aaron's a celebrating inthe corner and the other four, other three players, are like where dowe go? Or scored the goal and Chris, Aaron Turmer, I saidon this podcast, came out and said I was my goal. Of course. MENA zoone says there's no way, but he just he had seventy threepoints himself in ninety six games. will point out the PIMS. You'll topoint out the PIMS. One always the pimps. But he he was tough. We won't reveal all the injuries that he was dealing with in the playoffs, but I saw the pictures. Say this past year, we know,we just to save me and his dad at the bar and they said hisankle was like hanging on a thread. Basically he was like, you knowwhat, I'll suck it up. He was the captain. He embodied theword captain. Would do it like he could put up points, but thenhe did all the other things behind the scenes that if you looked at ablock score you wouldn't see. He led from the top. He went thelocker room, the guys listen to him and it's I like it too,because it's one of those guys, like we said, smaller and stature,not a huge guy, but it shows you don't have to be, youknow, Zadano chars size to be an Apton. You can be a smallerguy like him and still, you know, put yourself, put your name,put your body and develop a reputation. And Christeph we had a very goodreputation in this league. If you were an Abas Fan and one ofthose teams, are one of those players that you hate if he's done onyour team, kind of like Brad Martian. Speaking of captains and leaders, let'sjust keep going down this list. Right Jared sleear was a leader onthat first championship team. Actually followed Chris on his path from Hartford to NewHampshire, which I know is not eh LP to ehl put there was acore that we're on the wolf pack with at the Wilfterrell and the air andthen came up to New Hampshire when he out of the team, and thenobviously sleear I moved on to Plymouth stay from there. But he was excellentthat first postseason. Six points in six games, I think almost all sixof those points were in the frozen finals too. So it did an interviewwith them after on the ice to after the game. That was we werestill figuring out our format and got it to what it is now and Iwas interviewing guys in the ice. Cheers leears one of them. I foundthat I might fold the other. There you go. So that's five Ford'sjust like that. I told You I knew this. Togo to Philip fast, which you get the d they'll be six and six seconds. Still somemore good name. I mean so I was looking. Obviously, so yougot four years right. You got to look at we picked a lot ofguys in the beginning years from this past season. Not a lot of pointin skidders. But Manichenko was someone that a lot of people he led theteam and he was someone that, you know, a lot of the parentsspoke really highly of. Also, I can't believe Chris and Mario Love theAmerican guys. Mat Chenko's like the only overseas guy I think I see ontheir entire like top pointsless. Yeah, I think he. I forget hewas somewhere prior to when he joined the avalanche. I think it was MCDCand then he can to the avalanche quick two thousand, one thousand nine hundredand twenty, and then this lap past year was his first full year.So you know, in six in sixty eight games, he had fifty ninepoints. You wonder if he had done two full years, where would hebe at? I don't know if he'd be as high as Tim Cronin becauseCronin had three years of games that he played, but you never know.I mean he was crafty. He's going to Manhattanville. He he was partof the All star lists that we put out this past year because we couldn'thave an all sart event. Two Thousand and twenty. Weird, you weird. Hear every did it. Never forget good right, but I thought hewas a good one here from this year's see, they didn't have a tonof guys that stood out to you on paper that like jumped off, buthe was definitely, I'd say, one of them. So Yep, areput them on the board. I'M gonna go back towards the jared's lear timeagain a little bit. When Nick Rip Mo was on the ice. OhYeah, you had to know where he was. So he wasn't another kidthat went to mean or one of the main the University of Southern Maine,the other mean. Yeah, he when he st went to hit you,he was trying to put you through the...

...glass like that, but shoulder,the shoulder right, like he his hits were clean right and send you fromNew Hampshire to me when you get you for a cross state state lines.I think. I think the most common call he got was probably charging becauseof this stribes that he took into a hit. But he wasn't the typeof kid that was, you know, aiming for the head or anything likethat. And I always remember this one game he missed on a hit.He was trying to hit the kids so hard and he actually hurt himself andChris was like Rip Moo, like Nick, I need you if you slow downa little bit, you may make some acts, a little contact nothurt yourself. I can see Chris Like bodying him up for coaching on thebench to like staying like all right, so you don't your hit good,but you know I need you in the cave, like abusing the hands ofeverything, like my buddy. We can't lose you for a bit of time. Come on. He was fun, though. I mean like he Iremember him too, like it if, even if he was a scratch fora game and he had the best time on the scorers box. Yep,and there was a defestman that sometimes we with him in the score respons forgoing to get to him. That hadn't even better time. So Wat,but quickly we're at seven, four. It's just like that. Look atthis. So it's kind of now what time frame will be looking for fromhere, because that's what we're doing with these four year teams. Right.You're kind of like, oh, we don't to go way back, don'tgo way forward. It's kind of like they're all all mixtd. The nextwave of forwards, to me, is all the same. Yeah, theyall put up around forty points or so over it. So we put Akinsup there, yet we put at cans up there. Yes, I can, this is good. Okay. We got the four, we got thetop five scores and then we jumped down to the eighth all time and wejumped all the way down to the sixteen all time. So I think forCole Arschambau, what stands out to me about his time with the ABS isover a two year period he played in sixty seven games. But they're alsowas some time miss. They're due to injury. We're kind of like,not a Schenko what would have been if he had had the full, youknow, two years. Spent two years in the NA three prior to that. So so really worked his way to where he is now at Fitchburg State, unable to play any games this past year, but part of that crewof of I guess you called them sophomores. Now they get to play their firstcollege game this upcoming season and we're going to see him when team theHL faces Fitzberg state in October. Excellent. I told Lady, I told Vickythere day at the All Star Week is right around the corner and shesaid no, it's not. That's like I was like before you know,it will be the middle of October. I'm just don't give don't give herthe cheeks just yet. So see joining summer. It's only July. Yes, he goes, do you want golf season? And I go fair,play, fair, point. He knows you well, she knows it makesyou tick. They are gonna do I get another good one to Neil.Okay, there. How about Victor Nikaphorov? Yes, Guy, funniest story withNika for there we go with the last time we face the college teamswas in two thousand nineteen twenty and he was part of years ago two thousandnineteen twenty. He was part of that team that went one, one andone, and we took a bus to Fitzburg state one day, we tooka bus to Salem state the next day and obviously drove ourselves. Everyone leftfrom Ms Boston the first night. After getting off the bus. You know, Daddy Day Care, on Daddy Day babysitting, I have to go tostand the bus and see what's there and I find I count it, Ifind two sticks, like go to his room and he opens the door andgoes, oh, I'll probably need those tomorrow, like that's the response.Oh, not like, Oh, I've been looking for these is like,Oh, yeah, my sticks. I mean like you walk inside the hotelwith your hockey bag and everybody else had their hockey bag and all their stickshave you didn't have anything in your hands. Yeah, it was going to potstivefrom the Sunni school that we love. You didn't once think to yourself,Hey, where am I to two hundred and fifty dollar sticks, likesee, you know expensive these sticks are nowadays? Yeah, these guys,they're they're an interesting greed, all them for all very different, different shapesizes. Keeping with the the theme of talented scores just one season. Sohe shows up further down on that list because, again, what if therewere multiple years? There, CAL Leclaire son, I was mention of Johnmcclaire and I'm John Leclaire. We got to meet at Schneider Arena. Huge, huge chance. That guy. Yes,...

Jesus Christ, watch them as akid and then seeing him in person was like wow, he's freaking medicine, just a smooth four hundred six for gold, uhole total in the endof the shell. Actually remember that championship game was avalanche versus the little looseor the revolutions and an alumni of the of the revolution was not on theteam, but Caden Primos Dad Pretty showed up at that game and I remembertalking to right and Keith and John were standing directly across from each other,opposite. You were. I can see it now. You were a jetflyers, I want to say, lie may mates at some point, noteven just that, teammates. You were lie mates and he put the puckon your stick, like Caden's not even here. Kids not even be playingfor the revolution, but they wouldn't speak to each other. Yeah, there'sgot to be some stories. Well, I think what's episode to come throughit. I think it was just the Revolution Avalanche, just we like bothlike to see both teams win. But yeah, I was I remember lookingdown and I think I actually hit you as like we have two NHL oursstanding, yeah, directly across from each other. Yep, I remember.I could see. I can see John Leaning over the bars, just sittingthere. You stand in the whole time. Didn't sit. And then I cansee Keith, yeah, like you said, in the corner to ourright with the northeastern three quartersip on rooting for the Huskies, for Katan ashe was moving on. And then, yeah, just see them both sittingthere and you're like, what the heck is going on? And cals avery good player. Yeah, he's in in a y AH shell time.Obviously just the one season, but forty four games and forty four points.That's east, that's easy. Maxie Mass, one point per game and as alreadyspent two seasons at tops under Pat Norton. So gearing up for Ithink what's going to be called his senior year, because last season they weren'table to play. It's tough to follow that. That's be tough to fall. But speaking of college players, and I mentioned to Chris before we didthe all time lineup that being Jewish, it's not the only reason why I'mputting Cam Whitzman on this love cheese, but km was the Kim look.I am Yes, he was the leading score for albertas madness and their veryfirst season at division three. So that was the twenty nine, pretty goodtwenty season. He went in and had eighteen points in twenty four games.Yep, as a freshman right, that's big. So so, as afresher you're fighting for ice time half the time, let alone be the leaderand points. Yeah, so he was on that two thousand and eighteen nineteenavalanche team with Leclaire. Put Up thirty one points and thirty nine games ofhis own, and then now is gearing up for his third season at Alberta'smadness. Only got to play two games this past year, but in talkingwith Kyle Walack, I saw kyle this past week. Kyle, the schedulethat they have is pretty impressive and I think there's big things coming for Weismanin his third year. So maybe maybe you see a double or two timesin production, if you will. It's calling it now. Lock it up, ter bits and we will put Cam Whitesman next. And that gets usdown to one more forward. I got a couple of possibilities. I gotto throw both of these guys off of you. So can we talk aboutto it once? We can talk about two guys once, right, giveme us a little bit of time. I'm between Ryan Malco, who wasvery interesting player this past year that kind of went through ups and downs.He put a lot of pucks in the back of the net, though,and his times, an Abo and Derek Brittener. What do you think ofthose two? To battle it up the last forward and it's funny because there'sother names here to like Kylie Anderson, maybe tyler, your bitch, youris left for it's a bally tough. It's really tough. I think whatstands out to me about Brittaner at the time when they won the two thousandand seventeen eighteen ehl championship, he became the first player in league history towin two titles with two different teams. Really, yes, because he hadwon one arcs and then one two thousand and fifteen sixteen with the monarchs.Yeah, an he won two thousand and seventeen eighteen with the avalanche. SoI think with that little accolade get the extra as you see, to ehlchampions here. You know page. I think we give him the nudge,but I acknowledge that there are players out there like a Connor Leach, DevinPepe Zach a whole on tyler, you're Itch, Ryan, Malco, KyleAnderson, Matt, Matt Canyon. He...

...was awesome in this league. Yeah, that we just can't fill in. Well, maybe we still have theutility, but we don't know what we're doing that utility yet. We're wonderingif it might be goaltender or could be dtwo. Once we get to theseDNO, too, you start ripping through this a lot. There could bemore than six. So for D do we go with the fan favorite firstor the lock leading defensive scorer first? Oh No, we're doing are wegoing to do like a one, two, three? Who's the fan favorite?We're gonna do the fan favorite. Easy, the fans parents, easy. Crawlis all he was like. Second, Fan favorite, this do? Hewas like. Third, look, I'm over to do strikes. WHOLIKE PRIS? Yes, for there go like Oh to don't got up tobat. Bam. They was no one more entertaining than Aj Persowski Cristoski uplike he if he wasn't playing in the game, he was potentially driving theZamboni, and then if he was having the Zamboni, he was waving tome as he passed at center ice every time. Hey, Neil, twomore laps, three more laps, like just having the best time. Hedid the PA for number of games right, and I had the tauch him becausehe would whisper for the away team and he would just scream for thehome team, and I was like yeah, like a little gazeman ship. OhYeah, Chris and Barrio too would roll their eyes to look over likeup. All right, there we go. And he aj was one of thoseplayers, like a jared sleeer, that spent time with Chris in Hartfordand then followed him up to the avalanche. And I remember when he committed,Chris was like I love Aj, but it's time for AJ to moveon. That's like what you know what ages said the same thing. Ilove Chris, but it's time for me to move away from Chris. Yes, I think they are both ready for a break. It's almost like abreak. Happen Right, happens. But but the other names that you mentioned, the Jake Mendozoa, spent two years with the avalanche, put up sixtypoints in his time nixt crows, half OAR deven. Well, yes,said there, because its rawls who won the two thousand and eighteen nineteen defensemanof the year. I'll tell you what an awesome foot race on skates Imean. When I say foot race, would be say in the booth.would be next crawls versus Corey Donyh right beat on speed. I like theywere kind of the same style defenceman, hmm, where they played solid defensively, they would. They would bump into you, for sure, but whenthey add a chance to rush, you looked and then all of a suddenthey are by you. Yep, absolutely so. I think that would beone heck of a race. Yeah, for sure. And that is halfof our dcort just like they're good. Still got a lot of good more. What more good names on there? Let's see. Who else can wethrow up there next? You have anyone the pop so off to you rightaway. They're new. I was going to say we's that easy ones.Yes, there we have names that we can say we will tepiled. ColinTracy and Kyler harding both went off to Puma state. Ethan Clark had asolid year there. Should all big seventeen past year. Even Clark's going toPotsdam or is at parts past and I should say hall big is going toFitchburg. Jake ETA only had one season. He was good, but he wasreally good and he scored twice for us against Fitzburg state. I wantto say with that Allstar team, who that might have to get you onthe might have to get you on the list. Scored twice against the collegeguys before. You were college guy. Yes, and like the two timeehl champion. He was on that two thousand and nineteen twenty team. Andlike, what does a tilting guy to before he came here? Your ringsand goings at tops now and, like I just again, another one ofthose players that makes me wonder what that playoff series would have been like betweenthe avalanche and lumberjacks, for sure, because it would have been so good. HMM, that gives us some way. We could give us for so far. That's for you'd mentioned a couple other ones. I gottas quick Igot a quick story here. Okay, we're not going to put Cam BarberGallo on this list, but I'll never forget the time he scored three goalsand one shootout. For me, that was awesome, like I remember,in three different moves also. Yep. So you know the other names thatI haven't mentioned yet. There was James Zenka, who was part of thatonly one thousand, sevent hundred and eighteen team that helped them win that firsttitle. Yeah, that's Queeney. Was was rock saw. Another one ofthose guys that Chris will bring in. A player that's not that big,but he's just effective. Right pass quedy's...

...not a big defenseman, but hetook care of what he needed to take care of and and there weren't manygoals scored when he was on the ice. I'll tell you that much. Yeah, he was another good yeah, five seven, one hundred and fiftyfour. Wow, he was tiny. Yeah, I think I want toput I think I want to Go James Zanka and Colin Tracy. All right, I like to think, but I'm I'm stuck. I just I'm tornbecause there's so we're gonna leave somebody off and we're going to hear about it. Yeah, well, I'm every week we pretty much Gott into Justin Scutiritext and US after Walpole like hey, we're not perfect. Is Why theyput a racist on pencils and a lot of these teams it's a credit tothem. There's a lot of guys. You could most of these teams.You could probably make two of these different lineup sheets. Yes, I wouldsay twelve, six to with the utility, I would agree. I would agree, and we're acknowledging that there's players that are not part of this forwardcore or defensive core. Right. That's what I do. Like honorable mentionZolst, she'd talking. We throw their name out just to give a littleblurbs and then we see if we can fit them on the list. It'sall YEP, and I think I have our utility. And I don't thinkit's Matt Goalie. Oh, it's going to be a goaltender. I thinkit's going to be a defenseman. Okay, and I think it's going to bea defenseman because we don't know where the what the future holds for him. I think he has a division one possible, like pipeline possibility, butit's going to take some time to get there. And I think he hasa connection to the avalanche owner as well. And that's not why we're choosing Robert. It's not why we're choosing Robert Martinello, but he's tendered with CorpusChristie, right, and it's raise the DNA. Yeah, so moving up, there's a chance he sticks there. Could he end up back with theABS? Yes, but I think that the sky is the limit for himand to do it. He did it seventeen. He was seventeen years oldthis year, like and Andy Moore comes in and like it's tough for adefenseman when rookie of the year, when you have that way you're going against. But he was. He was legit seventeen, but he didn't look seventeenon the ice. You know what I mean, right it so harry himsizewise, six one hundred and ninety. That's good size for seventeen year oldkid. They'll grow into his body. He'll gain at least probably another tenfifteen pounds, you know, once he starts being able to develop. Imean he's just hitting that point where he's turning from a boy into a man. So you're going to start rolling, buddy, you're gonna start putting onthe muscle, drink those protein shakes. But yeah, he was very impressiveand stature very impressive to skill sit on the least this past year for theAPPS. Yep. So that will round out our avalanche unit and it's agood one, as we always say. He put it up against any teamthat we've put together so far, and they've done so with just four yearsof history. So I think next week we're going to have the PROTEC juniorducks on which were not going to have an all time line up from justone season. So we'll get back to the all time lineups the week and, oh the week after that. So we'll talk to you, Jeff,in two weeks. Sounds good. Neal, well, I'll talk to you beforethat podcast. I'll see. Thanks for listening to the show. Learnmore at Eastern Hockey League Dot Org and follow us on Facebook, twitter,instagram and Youtube. Also, be sure to subscribe and get notified when nextweek's PODCAST is released.

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