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Team of the Week (RoughRiders) | Episode 69

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On this week's episode of the #EShow we feature another 'Original 6' team in the Connecticut RoughRiders (1:19). Steven Brown is the Associate Head Coach of the RoughRiders, and serves as Eric Lind's right-hand man. Brown and Lind are the only coaching duo that has remained intact and in the same location for all eight seasons of the EHL. Brown takes time on the podcast to talk about his relationship with Lind, as well as look back on what was in his opinion the toughest season of coaching he's ever gone through. To put a bow on things at the end, the #ECrew comes together (38:56) to discuss all of the great players that have hit the ice in Norwalk, CT.

Welcome to the e show with Neil Raven. With over onezero NCAA commitments, the ehl is the proven path to college. Turn it up and learn more about the college placement leader at the division two and three levels. Welcome to the east show, presented by the penalty box foundation. Foundation's mission centers around their daily motto we take care of our own as they help out all of those within the hockey community who've experienced a cashtrophic event. Learn more at penalty box but foundation dot Org. What's up? My name is Neil Raven. This is episode number sixty nine of the e show and on this week's episode the feature another original six team and the Connecticut rough riders. Stephen Brown is the associate head coach of the rough riders and serves as Eric Lynn's right hand man. Brown and Land Are the only coaching duo that has remained intact and in the same location for all eight seasons of the ehl. Brown takes time on the podcast talk about his relationship with Lynd as well as look back on what he calls the toughest season of coaching he's ever gone through. To put a bow on things of the end, the e crew comes together to discuss all of the great players that have hit the ice in Norwalk Connecticut, joined now by Steven Brown, the associate head coach of the Connecticut rough riders. How's it going, Brownie, this morning? Thanks for coming on the PODCAST, a long time coming. We've talked about this for a number of years and I know you're a big time listener of the podcast, so I finally have you on for the first time. Of course, the talk about, first and foremost the two thousand and twenty twenty one season. I know there's a lot of you can say negatives, but let's go back and find the positives from this past season. Yeah, so that's a tough question. As far as the positives are concerned, meaning that doing this for so many years, going into thirty eight, three, nine seasons of coaching, that you're you're expected or there is a rhythm to the season, and this season was disrupted pre season last year when you and I spoke with the interview with Eric and I and procedural how things go. There's you can sort of complacent because you know how things go year to year, but this was an extremely unprecedented season. On a side note, the EHL and you you'll and absolute tremendous job getting us through this first year of pandemic. Very pessimistic in the beginning of the year as far as just going week to week. Yeah, and then when our team got covid in November, you know, I thought we were done for the year and we went all the way through. So, just on a side note, fantastic job to the staff of the HL and everyone else that's helping out. So positive. Wise, it was just the ability to help the athlete, the student athlete, during this time and when the parents gave those children to us in this crisis, Eric and I and our staff were had a tremendous responsibility and that, just like you guys were able to do with the League, that we were able to run to the finish line, even with the adversity of having covid on the team and get through this season. That was the positive because I remember saying to Eric right after our eggs and meetings and when you when the League announced, after the NHL decided to shut down, if we could only just get into the building next year and just practice, that would be a huge win. And we ended up the size of the break that we had to take that. We were able to do that and so we were still able to teach and on the ice and off the ice, learned tactics and technique and mental training and everything else we do with the team and get some boys to college, and that that was the win. So yes, there was it wasn't the same season and wasn't the toughest season. I mean, if we had, if there was a if there was a documentary on this year, that would be the title and down here. But you know, we go on and we go forward and and and and see see what's going to happen down the line and being a little bit more optimistic this year. Maybe in a few years will put together that documentary. I'll be an offseason project for us. But you mentioned the exit interviews from last year and it's weird how, when time passes you remember different things that you do don't think that you remember. And...

I remember talking to you specifically after March seventh when you guys had beat the junior flyers in game one of your playoff series. I don't know if you're if you remember this, but we didn't talk again until almost a month later because of the way that everything played out. Obviously the junior flyers came back to win that series. But then you mentioned, and you know, the exit interviews. You had them right afterwards and all of a sudden, every once home and were in lockdown. Now the tough question that I want to ask you is, because of the way the season got canceled, was it almost easier that you guys were knocked out and you have the closure, or would you have preferred to still be playing and then being told your season is over? I think we had the best opportunity for scenario. Yeah, okay, because we played with with no blip. Yeah, there, we just went, we were done, and then was it? Three days later, you know, you called me and that was it. So, and we were already in exit meetings. In fact, I remember on that Wednesday we had a our finished player in, a Russian player. We had to make reservations to get them out of the country within two days and literally like they were gone. Yeah, so for us it was a definitely a positive and while everyone was still scrambling, we were actually even started, you know, signing guys, or not officially signing guys, but getting ready to nail it down. So we were we were wait we were steps ahead and met because everyone else was still in holding patterns. Like always, this just going to blow over in a week or two. You know, will we be able to play? And and so everyone was still in like anyone that was still in the playoffs was in that situation. That was a tough playoffs for us. We came well. Came against some really good goaltending from Sweden who play and and the boy played on my friends team in luck and Lulio and Sweden. So it was little annoying. But yeah, it worked out for us, unfortunately. But then you fast forward and at the start of this season I basically told people that the states of New Hampshire and Connecticut with a with the luckiest at the start of the year because things were relatively wide open. So was the chiefs and in the rough riders playing a bunch of Games, and then the wolves, avalanche and spartans playing as many games as possible and help it having everyone came in as soon as possible. But then we go through this crazy transition where at one point I think you played the chiefs seven times in a row or something like that, but that was the only team that you could play. How did you and Eric Lynn, the head coach. How did you guys go and talk to the team every day and try and get that same deliver that same motivation when you're playing the same opponent like that over and over and over again? Yeah, so, first of all, it's interesting how some other leagues, Junior Leagues, can operate, and meaning meaning schedule Wise, you know. And so there's some divisions and some other competitive leagues that play Games over and over again. So, you know, we always used to sort of joke like wow, that's got to be really hard to do, like you're playing the same teams eight, nine, ten times a year. You know, like how does that work out mentally? And we also thought too that those games, even though the schedule, you know, was sort of recycled or redone multiple times, that it wasn't really going to be forever. In our heads. So, being being optimistic and that and that sense thinking that all right, well, whatever it says, we're going to play them this many games, but we're probably not. At the end of the day, it'll probably go back and we'll be fine. So what happens later on is that and and and we know this happened internally from the League that penalty minutes seemed to escalate a little bit more as the game's progressed and it was brought to attention, to to the League ownership and coaches that we had to try to squash that. So you know, from our perspective, it can get heated, you know. So the rivalries get extremely fair fierce. It's almost like, you know, a seven Game Nhl playoff where it's going to get hired harder and harder. But we were trying to stay optimistic and and and and tell the players basically like here's the opportunity. It could have been nothing and now we have something. Just be glad that we're here every day. And, you know, and then God's given us the ability to play hockey. You guys are lucky. Their teams that haven't even practiced this year, their teams that aren't leagues, that aren't...

...even playing, their young boys that will never touch the ice this year, like, you know, whatever reason it is, and so every day that we step into this building we're lucky, and so we roast, you know. Obviously we rose for the occasion and it was tough, but we make it through. And then what was so strange that last chiefs matchup was on November twenty, so right before Thanksgiving, and then you can't play again because of the shutdown and Covid upbreak all of that. You can't play again until the middle of January. But you still managed to finish and you have to play for home games in brewster. Was it simply day by day in the second half. So what happened was, you know, without throwing anyone under the bus, Hunter team who had it first. So it ran through the team. Everyone got it with a with the exception of seven. It was seven players that didn't have it. The entire coaching staff had it. So that's four of us and our our Jim trainer did not get it. Okay, Yep. So that was right before Thanksgiving and it hit boom. So guys, some guys had US spend Thanksgiving here, some guys were were able to go home based on whether they had covid yet or not, or so on and so forth. And then, because the way covid runs runs, it doesn't hit everyone right away. It's sort of layered itself over the weeks and by the time we looked at the calendar we made a decision internally with the staff that we couldn't return probably till after Chris, after Christmas, you know, new years and that, because we wanted the players to be able to go home for the holidays. For us it's important, you know, that time of the year for everybody, especially during this crisis. So we ended up not coming back to the beginning of January and then January we end up having them play New Jersey, who was very, very strong this season, again and we had to play them three games in a row. Now, remember from the from the training standpoint and the physicality of a human being, if you're losing seven weeks, your whole summer training and your maintenance that you've had all year is completely gone. You'll lose strength training in three to four sorry, in five to six weeks, it'll all be gone, basically, and Cardios gone in three to four weeks. Only a few players were able to get back after COVID and train or had ice time and had home gyms or whatever. Remember, we're in the middle of the winter too. It's not like guys can go outside now and do workout. No, so, so we we had to. In Swedish they say Boyo from Boyam, which means to start from the beginning. We had to start for the beginning, yea, and it was hard and then we ran into February where we basically had a play one three of our season in one month. Then we knew we were going to have injuries and flash fast forward to playoffs, which was a daybreak, and then we had to go down to Maryland and by the final game we had five players injured and two players were had to sit for a game for penalties. So it was it was awfully tough, but we did make the run and and guys are going to school. Will Pond just called me from our team on Friday and he's going to western New England, which I haven't said to the email you head. They go that the Monday morning thing. But yes, so you know, guys are gone and we're excited and, like I said, the toughest season but definitely some some apples in there. So that covers, will say, the two thousand two thousand and twenty one season. Obviously the fact that we finished as the biggest positive that you guys can see as a staff. But I want to talk more about the history of the program and I know the answer to this question, but I want the public to hear it. A few years ago you guys change from the oilers to the rough riders. Can you talk about what that name change entailed for you and and becoming a part of the big rough riders organization? Sure. Well, we've always been part of the rough riders organizations. The rough Riers were founded in one thousand nine hundred and ninety nine by Tony Sideo. They Tony owns our USHL team, of course, sere rappers Iowa, and we have teams. They're from youth all the way through high school, four teens and then a high school team. In fact, Ethan Cotch, a new plays on our team as a forward. Last year was first year and overturn next year is from Cedar Robberts High School, who actually wear the same uniforms as we do. Yeah, and then we have our facility out in in co Colorado and superior outside of Denver. Tone Tony...

...and his staff built an unbelievable complex, I think the closest sixty million dollars, which has two ranks and three on three rank and indoor soccer field, basketball courts. They even do esports. Now they're in baseball and so it's a European model with a lot of different types of sports. And then when they open the rank and Sono, Eric, you know, had met Tony and our past owner ownership. So we had a different rank owner then and we we put together this junior team and an organization under it. So, even though we were wearing oilers, was the name and the name comes from a pro team that played out of crystal ice arena here in Nora walk back in the day. So I'm going to say then it was a you know, equivalent to like a little bit maybe like a socalled the Ahl back again seas and seventy. So they were called the home oilers and so that they use that name. But it was always part of the rough riders brand. We were, if you looked at our uniforms back then, same, same colors. Actually our logo was exactly the same as the rough riders logo, our circle logo. It just said Connecticut oilers on it. Yeah, and then what happened was the league was looking for some expansion there to get we were trying to get another team in Connecticut and so our past owner, Ryan use, was working with the League and we helped put in the oilers, but we also at the same time, maybe when that was happening, there was a move to push our name to rough riders because when they built the Colorado build out and and they were trying to expand a little bit more to get the name more present, we wanted to change it to our our top teams name and to being synergy with our USHL team. So that that all happened during that time. So when the oilers when they when we changed our name, they had since they had built the oilers brand. Our past owner decided to keep the name yeah, of the team and just transition it over and between you and I was extremely confusing. We voiced our opinion, but who wasn't heard, and I remember we like in our first game, one of the first Games, we were up like an Apple Corp and an official came over me and I asked me, can you explain, I just don't get it, like are you? And we would get phone calls from parents and players and we actually lost players during the recruiting process because of it too. So it was a really odd, odd little six months period of time. So that the chiefs now, I guess right, you know, officially are coming from that. That Mold Yep and and and we are not a new team. We've never changed our team, we just the name. was just basically sold and moved on and we just took a new name on that. That's really all it is. But very confusing the community, yes, but, but, but obviously what people notice now is that the consistent aspect of it is you guys are always been, as you like to say, the best way to college hockey. So just to go over the division three numbers over eight seasons in this league in terms of commitments for eight seasons, nine, seven, seven, Thirteen, eleven, seven, eight, and I guess now it's actually five. We just had breaking news on this podcast. But you get you guys have always been consistently you could always pencil you guys in for, you know, somewhere around the eight number for El for just division three commitments. What makes you guys so consistent in that area? Our big thing is the players first. So when a player comes to us in the recruiting process, the and this might sound odd to some of the other coaches that'll be listening, the championship, it is irrelevant, yeah, compared to the players placement to university. So that's the sacrifice we do. You know. So, for example, if I'm interviewing a player, I will say to him, when you come to us, you are our number one priority. We will try to win as many games as we can as a team and we will try to advance as far as we can ins the frozen four, but we need to get you to division hockey, beaning Division...

One, two or three. Yep, you know, and that that for us, is number one. And by doing that, they're sacrifices that are made, which means that we have to make sure that we're getting everybody in. We keep very low roster numbers. You know that we are definitely have the least amount of movement per year on average per team by far. You know, I don't want to start comparing other numbers as they're going to get mad, but you know, we try to balance our roster with this year it'll be with Os one, oh, sorry, one, Zo two, so three's and even we're bringing no for from England this year who's been playing at it for a couple of years. So which we try to balance the roster. We want to make sure that the player that's coming into to us is there because they want to continue to get better in development and rather bring in a younger player than, for this year, bringing in a one, where we've had to I've had tons of all ones and all three positions reach out to us, but we don't feel we have enough time on about what we're seeing in their gameplay to develop on the way that Eric and I want to do from a technical standpoint. Yep, and it's not just division three placement. You guys are are one of the programs that has the highest number of division one commits over the years. They have been fifteen of them that have come through the rough riders program some of them have come in and then played another year elsewhere. So when you get some of those younger players that have those aspirations of maybe trying to climb the USA hockey ladder of development, how do those meetings go you? I mean you're talking about players going to do, done and yeah. So it's interesting because in most cases people in the in hockey would say, well, if a players are done, capable player, why are you know? Why wouldn't they play in Tier One? Why, wolent they go to your USHL team? Yeah, and of course, yes, that's always an option, but the idea is that the player when they set the track to where they want to go. There are players that will bring all the way through the process, like Wilkins, Alex Wilkinson, perfect harmy. So Alex with us for three seasons and he did not in the beginning, did not start the same way he finished. So it took him time to grow. He was, he's a fantastic, beautiful skater and his game just increased, increased, and it was you know, I'm going to say October November of his last year where he that Dne was. You know, he could smell it a little bit more after every game. There are other players that are with us that, like macavoy, for example, who ended up at colgate. You know he'll be with us and then we're like, all right, you need to move on to a different league to he went to the vchl to to try to step it up another level. So every player has a different path and the nice thing about the AHL being in USA hockey and sort of the development ladder is that I don't know if a lot of people know this, but it's in players contracts and players have the have rights, players have rights to move and it's our job to move them on. I always tell players and recruiting that yes, if you like a young player like our old for from England, while if I get good enough, like what would be the next step? I said I will drive. I say I would say I will drive you to the airport. We want them to want them to get better. We were not here, not telling anyone, you know, that this player got better. So let's just keep them here and and and and you'll just end up going to Dne through us. Know, there's a there's a different there's a different way to go. You know, our big obviously the HL's done a fantastic job on feeding players into enca hockey. You know, our forte now is obviously three, division three and to and then a press league. We do have division one players coming come through great, great players. I mean I remember when when the revolution were in the League and we had a play a game down in Philly and Caden premos in. I mean that boys scared the living daylights out of our team back then, you know. And who with his Dad on the bench to coaching? Yeah, you know. And so there's some really, you know, really some great players that have gone through and gone some through great, great universities. But you know, on the other hand, to we have fantastic players going to dthree and D too, absolutely fantastic players, and a lot of players that finish their careers and we help them...

...out. We always say the slogan across all rough riders teams is once a rough rider, always a rough rider. Yep, that we will help them their transition at after sport. Like Lid Big Stineberg, for example, is you know, played for us and then went to Plymouth for four years and and now is playing. He played hockey in Norway for two years pro level and now he's playing in Sweden this this year. You know, it's got you know, and we have guys down in the East Coast and the I say as Southern League too. So I know they're there. Guy, there guys that are around and that's for us. That's developing, being the best you can be and and and seeing where you end up. That's the fun part. And you mentioned Wilkinson in there. I wanted to mention his name because he's a perfect example of a player who went to Division One from this league. But then you also had a couple division three players. There's so many comments that you guys are proud of, I'm sure, but the ones that really stand out to me, if we're talking true division three, are Walker Harris and Todd Jackson. And you see what walkers done or did at Wesley and then todd moving on to Norwich. How often do you find yourself telling their success stories when you're recruiting new players? I mean a tremendous amount of time. I mean he is they're definitely staples in the recruiting process. We always tell players you know that are were recruiting. Of course, if you want any phone numbers to talk to any guys about there. Their experience made. Walker was just an unbelievable force, both with us and it Wesley, and you know he was an nescact rookie of the year as well, and he started out with our rough riders team out Colorado in the Western states, played under Paul the Pike, the point, and Paul called him up, called us up and said, you know, Walker wants to take the next step up and we took him in and such a gentleman, you know, great, great guy, and and he ends up going to a fantastic university and getting absolutely great education and you know these players too were looking to take the next step and Europe and so on and maybe leagues here in the States. But covid put a squash on tons of players. You know, even a timmy, Timmy Sestak, who didn't play for us, and his mom works at a rank and we see timmy all the time. They actually lived two blocks away from me. Timmy was slated to go to play in Europe too, and he was a Wesleyan with with Walker and because of the whole covid he's had a turn the corner and he want to be a doctor and that's what he's doing now and he's said that that dream was sort of squashed and there was a vent. There was there's another you know, another player who played in the Ahl who had an unbelievable career. You know, he was on some weaker teams a little bit in the League but was definitely a standout. Coach sorella'll maybe remember that. Men Remember this. They were up at Apple Corps for showcase. I was sitting next to Alex Kov lef upstairs watching the game because his son was playing in a youth hockey game there and he was watching the game for a little bit and send and Timmy was standing at his head and a showcase game and they ended up losing it. So I think Chris his team in overtime. But you know, I turned to Colef and I remember saying him, I said like this guy's just he's this goalie is really good, like really really good, and you know, you just watching through the year and you know he ends up going to go into school. So it was great, you know. And then Wilkinson, on the other hand, coming out of North Carolina. We've had some really great players from North Carolina and you know you're just talking about Todd Jackson to I mean Jackson's also out of that North Carolina pedigree. You know, an extremely fast player, just like lightning fast, and and ends up going to Norwich and they win their first year and he scores the goal to give them the d three championship. That's what it's about at the end of the day, you know, it's it's it's at where you put these players and that's why we're here. It's junior hockey, it's not pro hockey. It's different. You know, when I coach Pro Hockey in Europe, but it's a different type of animal. Yeah, and and people always ask, you know, Brownie, like why? Why? Why Are you coaching juniors, you know, as opposed to prow some place, or why do you come back or sell and so forth? And the only other year before this, so the next year they basically went ten year with Eric, but I coached Aka Stockholm's junior team in one thousand nine hundred and eighty six. It was a when I went to Europe after High School College, so it was my first opportunity in Europe. Yeah, and so USA hockey. I'll just segue to a little story here, because that's good. People can listen to the podcast...

...in their car. USA Hockey was looking to place a couple of coaches into Sweden back in the mid s. The reason was there were so many Europeans coming to the NHL that they wanted to know what was going on. So I had gone out to Colorado Springs to the USA hockey symposium then. There was no level five back then masters so you had high level coaches from all the countries and I was friends with Ted Satyr, who was coaching the New York Rangers of the time, and Teddy invited me out to this to them posium and as just out of college and camera how old I was? Twenty one, twenty two years old and I'm rooming with Paul Homegrin, my Keenan's there I was sitting. I remember I was sitting for breakfast the first morning and this guy tasking on its shoulder and he asked me if I can sit down, and it's Bob Johnson, you know, like a completely different era. So they asked me if I want to go to coach and Sweden and I said sure, like and I was slated. I was I studied communication and Communications to Zion School, knows, and I was already working in an advertising place in the city, New York City, and I I was coaching to you know, it's coaching, assistant coach at Columbia University then for three years or in college. So I started very early coaching and I said sure, you know, why not? My parents, you know, said droll meet, drive me to the airport. There was, you know, like boom, and so I coach Ak Juniors that year and we ended up finishing third place in the Swedish championships and in retrospect it is the most fun I had ever had coaching that age group because I had had, you know, I had coached prep school and I've coached at Nyu when they were acch a back then, but that age group seemed to be the best because they were the hungriest to learn. Yep, you know. And when Eric gave me this opportunity, I didn't really think it was going to be for that long. I had taken a hiatus for two years from the bench and it was just scouting for a team in Sweden and Timrow, where I used to work, and and I took a team to go back from Wilkes Bear, from Forkwi Tournament for two years and and they built this rank in Norwalk. I live in Norwalk, I mean Erik's like, come on, it's twelve minutes from your house. TRY IT UP. And so now we're you know, I'm just come here, but it's great and Eric and I have such a synergy. In the beginning it was definitely saw. I loved what he was doing. He thinks way out of the box. He's very progressive. He's one of the best skaters I've ever seen in my life and it's a a big piece for players coming into have such a great skating coach. But we don't even have to talk. It's almost like with my brothers, you know, we just think, look at each other and just smile because we know so we and it and like for us, like I'm saying, it's the commitments every year and and helping the boys on and off the ice. You know, whether it's an ice hockey prom or personal problem, or last year with covid there was so much going on. That's what it is, just giving back and it's story war, and I know pretty mentioned this in her Britt commits with Tyler. I'm not sure if you know this because you brought up your connection with Eric. There are coaches in this league that have coached as long in the League as you guys have, but you're the only duo that's been together the entire time, in the same place the entire time, and and it sounds like it's not going anywhere anytime soon. Is there is there ever a moment that you that you do butt heads or, like you said, you don't really have to even speak them much. You're always on the same wavelengths. I mean there's it's always tough, you know, being in a limit associate, you know, head coach, but it's, you know, basically a I'm under Eric Right. So he has a last word on everything and he'll he definitely is very polite and I will always ask an opinion about things and sometimes, you know, I'll make a mistake and I'll make a mistake on who personality could have on the ice or yeah, you know, or maybe we shouldn't have practiced that long that day or whatever. You know, whatever whatever the reasoning is. But I mean, we've never gotten in a shouting man would match. In ten years we might be. I might be shouting at him about something that I'm upset about, with something...

...that's out of our control. Yeah, as far as our concern and it's as far as we're concerned. It's very professional. The same we would do with players as well, you know. So we're very level and we've been educating ourselves too on the change in the environment in society and hockey over the last ten years, because the team that we had when we started, there are teams that we have when we started and now are completely different as far and and you know you're you speak to tons of coaches. It's not the same hockey player. It's different, different style, the Games, different you know, and that's do due to do society where everyone's feels sort of sense of entitlement to back. You know, back then in the day were there was, you know, a harder work out like to get things. You know, I was I was just telling you before we started the podcast that I had a great opportunity yesterday to coach spring two thousand and seventeen with some of the best players in the country coming in from Chicago mission and Pittsburgh Penguin, a league. Yep, and and we ended up winning this tournament yesterday and it was right here at Sono in Norwalk and it was fantastic. And you know, it's so you know, at the end in these torments, traditionally, like every team gets trophies, you know, type it's well, no, this was in the case only the winning he got trophies. You know, it's so things like that that's you know, those are societal changes. That's great for me to see the mother rooms, you know, there's not fifty boxes at the rank of trophies for everybody doesn't finish in first. But you know, society has changed and and and you've had to adapt and we've had to do a lot of offseason education. We've had a lead, read a lot of books, we've had a lot of talked a lot of professionals and that helps our relationship as well. So it's very solid. And this is our fourth team in the week feature where you're actually one of three, what I call original six teams that we featured so far, with the Rangers and little flyers speed the other two. And before I bring the e crew in, we're obviously going to come up with the all time rough riders line up for its D and Goalie. Can you just give us a one forward and D I know there's gonna be names that you don't say, but what probably cover them anyways. But give us the one forward in one D that we should start our lineup with for the all time rough riders. Well, I mean it's going to go back to the players we're talking about, so I'll obviously Walker Harris definitely needs to be there. Okay, that's and and and then Alex Wilkinson on defense, and the reason being as that both of these guys will walk through the wall for anybody. Yep, unbelievable work ethic. They are smart kids, you know, bookwise, and they can. They put in the time on ice and off ice. I mean I know willkie put in a tremendous amount of work off the ice when he went back to Carolina for the summers. I know when I went to go visit in Colorado to our rough riders facility, you know, Walker Harris was working there for the summers, so we could had full access to the gyms and stuff and the ice. And there they are. The prototypical ice hockey player, if you could, if you know, if you had to go to the store and buy one, that would be the one you would want to buy in both positions. So yeah, a hundred percent those two boys. So that's how will started. Album know, let you jump off so the e crew can come on. I appreciate you coming back on the podcast and enjoy the rest of the offseason. Thanks again, Neil, and once again thank you for the hl for putting together the toughest but the most rewardable season and some respects at the end of the day. Thanks again to Stephen Brown for coming on the podcast this week and helping us get the all time rough riders line up started. So let's bring in the e crew now and Jeff and Brittany I made it thirty five or so plus minutes on a rough riders podcasts and I have not used the word hosses. Yeah, oh well, let's gonna go and baby, you just said it once. That's ever be a Brit. Let's go hosses. Well, because we talked about the transition from the oilers to rough riders, name, and I should have probably said can we now talk about the transition from the rough riders to Hosses? Name? What will you guys be changing that? This Eric Lend and Steve Brown? Yeah, so, so obviously. For those who haven't heard it yet, I mean if you haven't heard Brittany say hasses yet, that I don't know if you've been around the league. Hasses. It means horses, which, of course, the rough riders logo is a horse. All right, high it's a hot sauce. So that's why we sometimes jokingly call them the hasses. But so many good players over the years. Obviously, with this...

...being our fourth team of the week, feature three of them so far, including the rough riders, are part of the original six. Wizards, almost by a year. Where part of the original six, but that gives us eight years to break down the two names that Brownie gave us. I think we all had. Anyways, Walker Harris was a Calado kid who went to play, I have to say it, hockey and golf at Wesleyan. He was a duel for they get the golf and there's a lot of kids on Wesleyans hockey team who are on the golf team. Yes, to this present day. Yes, and hey, golf is a great sport. That's all. As you do, I do fall on the Wesleyan kids on Instagram, like on the eat. Well, yeah, we have to the legal instagram. Yeah, but they literally in the spring have like golf tournaments via instagram story and it's realesome and obviously, as Brownie still a Golfi this year we set we'll change that. It's still early. It sttally new. But like for acause, like Walker Harris, you have the golf, you have the the hockey and you have at the academics of Wesley and also so like he got it all going for you there at Leslie. And then Alex Wilkinson. I Know Jeff. You've seen him play a lot when you're at Bentley Games because he's a defenseman at army. I think he won Defenseman of the year his sophomore year or something like that also, and he's one of those kids that went d one from the Ehl so and even extra, you know, stick tapped to him for that. Not to say that we don't have division one talent, but often you see the kids climb the ladder in a different direction to get to that division one level. So obviously two players that I think we would have had regardless. But that's a good foundation to start with. And why don't we make it three hundred and forty three, because I think it's almost locked in. The next guy has to be Michael Tilford in goals, second most wins all time and ehl history with forty five. The names he's above to Egger, Gerard stunts, almost walker, that Imus Walker. He who are you? We Love You, tomby. Telford was a two year guy with the rough riders, then went on to play four years at Nazareth, where we also had another goalie recently commit over the weekend as well. So a school that's always been consistently, you could say, on our goaltenders. So Michael Tilford gives us a foundational piece at each spot. So I'M gonna go next and I wanted to kind of test you guys because to me it's obvious who I have to include in this, but I don't know if you guys know as much of the history of this player. Oh it Defenseman, it's a good it's a forward and I have to pick him because of his CORNIPIAC connection. Is it will christs. So Nick Jermaine, if you want to talk about the route to Division One, Nick Jermaine was from Connecticut. This's where it gets so unique and like we could have a totally separate podcast on this. Like he is like literally from near Quinnipiac. Went and played for the oilers for a couple bully are for a little rady school kids and then I had to go up. He had to go all the way out to the BCH shell and then come back to play at Quinnipiac. Which is it at? That just makes the vision one, like journey like so unique to me. It's a totally different podcast. Right, you have to be willing to do something like that. But obviously all the BCHL to we player. Me Being a Quinnipiac Guy, I have to include the cat to the Quinnipiac like I have to bobcats. We got the Scott's right this week. Yeah, test of college mascots or everyone whole woods quartipax Mascott. Tell you what, it's not a shark. It's not often. It's a bobcat. There we go. I did have a few. I did have a few texts, a few text that said, guys, that was pretty funny last weekend. Oh, that's roll, that's us all, that's real. So other forwards that jumped out to you, guys. Joe Widemar, Widmar, yeah, that's a way back. That's a you're going three, you're going, you're going first point streak. I am going to the war. You mask. So like shit on that. Yes, with Mar was good. So I pointed out guy to with Bar, not a phrase. Not Afraid to beat you up. Well, you know, you had a hundred, twenty, eight and forty games back and Oh, yeah, see it's it's mass de Moine. Is that good? So Ray to whack you if you get in his face. It's got no steel gut. To Britt yeah, he's part of that. He was part of that fifteen player class of division one commitments that have played for the rough riders. So of...

...course he as Brittany and Jeff Jes mention, climb the ladder within USA hockey up to the USA Shell and then onto you mass from there. So that gives us three forwards. So far were allowed to go either position. New we kind of just topping around forward, D goalie. This week I think we're starting it. I think we'll start forwards right now because they have a d so many good scorers of the years. I think you have to put the lead another name. I was going to go leading scorer. Next, I think leading score three year Alex for a while. Are You vetter in there? We're well. I willd on to Manhattanville. was just steady and obviously you can see all the letters to pop up on his EP page that he was a true leader as well for that team. I likes to rally the boys. Yes, here's good team, good team guy. And what's so like fun like to watch this, like through that Ehl Instagram, you see these players become friends with guys so they didn't know before. So like I actually noticed earlier this offseason, like a lot of Alex Rola and Mason e Mo Mof like together. Em Off, of course, played for the lumber show but now they're at it hand. I love seeing that. It's a comical it's also comical when, like, you know, like Oh, your team's had beef, not in Vermont, but like there are on there like Vermont and Bjr, like you have dis canny out and billy Gerarda bfs, and I'm like, oh, that's weird. HMM HMM. And what? And we're going off topic here for a second. But renny young, test, I'll test your knowledge. I forget this, but you bring up an interesting point, because I remember there was a championship game where I became friends with this Kid's Dad, Tyler Urbidge, was like great best. was like best, best, best friends with somebody t you know Tino. Okay, that's what it was. You know a lot of the revolution and they face up in that. So like I always wonder, like how, like, I guess I don't have any of these myself, but like how far down the road can you bring up? Hey, I have bragging rights over you. You know what I mean, like like we won that game and you didn't. Okay, it's Hather. was friends with a bunch of those rip kids because it because a lot of the rip kids were PA kids and towers might we're gonna have that this year. Look at the Avalanche Rangers Championship Right, right, right jumps out to me. You have rodrigue and Chris aaren's going to brockport right. So we'll see what they bring that one up different, different podcast though, again as well. Keeping with the forwards, though, I know this name has been mentioned on a podcast before based off the season where he hella was going to say when are we getting boys in the words bles? Well, we'll start with area one. Or do we get both? And I think we have to start with Andrew Bella first and foremost for sure, another Manhattanville Kid. So there's a there's a good pipe on that's gone from the rough Radilla to the to Manhattanville over the years. But we just named two in a route. Rowella and Bella kind of rhymes there actually, Wellabella, but let's a Rouella. A third name, or another name that got brought up on during my interview with Brownie was Todd Jackson. Know that was going to be my person. I was going to say, well, do you? Do you? You haven't heard the interview because I just recorded it, but did do you know the interesting stat about what Jackson did in this first season at Norwich now, as a freshman. He scored the game winning goal in the National Championship game. Yeah, so it's it's one of those where I think this is the type of player that we can sell and promote from our league the most. We never hold kids back from going to do to the division one level, and he probably could be a division one player. But we're with the transfer Portlos have the country. Oh my God, everybody's going everywhere. Exciting, kind of breaking. But but the point is, like, what do you want to be when you get to college? Do you want to score the game winning goal in the National Championship game and and play such a big part and what Norwich is, or do you want to be a guy that may be crying things out for the third or fourth line? You have to it's it's that look in the mirror type conversation that you have to have with yourself and I'm sure he could have been a division one guy. I'm sure Walker Harris could have been a division one guy. I mean we know Alex Wilkinson was and he immediately became an instant part of the top four on the Baskeain for army. We've talked about that during the regular season, right on the podcast. I mean there's only six, Zero Division One college hockey teams. That's it, and the...

...entire country. So there was plenty of guys. You're right now that division two and division three that could play done. Yeah, and that's why you see these powerhouses, the Norwich is, the U, Mass Boston's with you know, and who was it we talked about that went from you mass Boston to, believe, Long Island University. Yeah, really, this year, Bra Brass? Yeah, Ross, that's right. So, and I don't know if I'll have Joe Britanny on again this summer, but even Joe pointed out, because Joe seen it like he thinks that the I mean I know I thought it already myself and every a lot of people are league do think this. But he saw division one and now he's seeing our league and obviously then move on to division three. He doesn't think the gap is that big. It's he's it's what you just said, though. There's there's thirty lass teams, so there's players that could be playing division one. There's just not a spot for it right. So another for it. As I keep stealing them. You guys should say something, because I keep stealing the forword. How about Will Christensen? He's another one that, yeah, I saw from the wayback machine. Well, see, Third Christiansen was like arounded my time. So it wasn't that. It feels like wake what two thousand and nine and twenty, dude, it does. It does feel like a wht feels like forever go. That was be not of bed. That was like the beginning of the pandemics. So that's gonna say pretty. Do you realize what we've been through the last year? It's this traveled through ten years. He was part of a I want to say three player class from that two thousand and nineteen twenty team that went to say an ace. I'm are you thinking? I don't I think. Hmm, I think that there were three different players on that same rough riders team that went to say an a's. Great. Well, was pretty. It was Christensen, Tommy SWARTZ and Connor Snowdy, all the same year. Or noody. Yeah, there's a there's a D coming sooner. I want to say that name yet. Oh my God, is he on that team? Because if he is, I know you're already because, yes, yes, yes, best friend. He was election. Will get the pretty spast read. Yes, what does that give us for forward? So far? So far, that gives voice on the list. Yes, speaking of EMVILLE. Well, well, we'll put him Mary. I forgot he wasn't d started. Well, you did that with Luke peppen last week, so we're good. Yeah's true. Hey, but sticking with the fords. To Finish Off, there Colin Kane, called Kane. Is that because of his skill or because his cousin is Patrick? Can? I think because it's come on, hiss to go on. He played both will years. Use, only a one year guy. Huh? No, only a one year guy. And Swart was like Kalyn, like you played one year back of a year, though. He was part of that. Was the first team that faced college teams, if I remember collect when he was on the All star team. Yes, the All star teams. I think. I think one thousand seve hundred and eighteen was the first year that we did that. I mean it was because he was on it and I remember I was like, I actually realize, like who he? WHO has you know cousin was and Hous like Oh the Kane. I like HMM. Well, there's a billion. There's a lot of things. I went to high school people who's last name was kate and I can tell you they were not related to the king. And in the funniest things, you have that whole Allstar Week. Brittany's phone case was like Chicago Black Hawks and like her background is like is like it's like Patrick Kane and it like she's probably hiding her phone, like should coll and see this or like not, like it's I hey, Brett, you like really good away. Chris Peters is at the ALSAR game. So literally was like attached to the Hitt. I was like, okay, it's being you and we're taking this whole thing. Meanwhile, like off to you is are our saval is there? Like it was a unit. That seems lucky. Good. It was the the oil hosses is what I guess we have to call him, right, the oil hosses. It's a little rough. Friday hosses. They had another. Oh, I had this man too. He's a man. Look at it all. Look if he's thirty seven, he's my age. Is that? They had another NHL with the edge guy was Zuccarello, that sucker. Those younger brother, Phoebean. Yes, yes, I know we probably make the list, but I'm just going down. I'm kind of remember what year that was like. All the a kids, cousin and A. That's all the years your brothers blend together. But yes, I for those that don't know, I guess they haven't picked up on A. I obviously share my screen during this, so I have a Lud vague Steinberg pulled up, who who Brownie mentioned, went on to play at Plymouth State, is now playing professional hockey in sweet and Sweeza. That looks like a Sweden, and he does with his...

...picture that we're looking at together. He does look like a grown man while being basically Britney's age, literally before easy year older than me. Yes, but it's still she's looking at him. Well, I'd I'd be heard from some sick jerseys. What teams you playing for that pace with White Font Oh. So that gets us down to the final three. He's making me angry. He's molds it. I'M gonna fix it for the final three. Four words. There's been so many good ones over the years. Chino Oka, Brit Mocha, Moshiacho. That's how she makes sense. We're gonna not going on to listen, but like just we still have the youngest Bella. We've called that. We have the youngest Bella. We have blant a pain from this season. We haven't even touched on this season yet. I think Colin should probably go on the list. We want it. We want to do the Bellas together. Yeah, that's so cute. Actually, yeah, we should. We should do Andrew Bellas Column Bella. I like that. Yeah, maybe they should just count us one, maybe in the interchange. Or here you go, they might have something a grateful but we're Bella down in our FD Blab last tell. Oh Yeah, there you go, Justin dict, Justin this got really happy with us for using the utility. Well, a great kid, I think. Then, at that point I do want to include want, a pain from this past year. He was great. We've touched on different changes of scenery before, and not to say that valley was the wrong spot for want of pain, but when he got to the rough riders, for some reason this point totals just doubled. So sometimes just something different, a different spot in a lineup, something clicks for you and and honestly, I have to say, one of the best interviews for Brittany on Brituce commits, like what a awesome kit. Yeah, Nice Kid. Oh God, the behind this. That one was so funny. The whole squad, the whole team, was watching this whole interview and go down. It's like the he's right here, you know, obviously in front of the camera. Whole teams behind the computer. Brittany has an effect, as we all remember, for the frozen finals with Mr Freedman, for the Lover Jackson, the nine hundred Vermont lumberjacks. I'll sit there on their phone interviewing at the same time. Maybe Mag yeah, I think what made the kid, yes, it effect. I think what made that kid so nervous for the fact that he is an infant to basically and yeah, and the boy the first time that he was being interviewed. But I think his name, I can see right now. I Have Mitchell Parsons. Mitchell Parsons, it was ours. Was a fun player in this league. Immediately made an impact at the college level to I want to say he got to the study AC and then won a couple like week awards a year right right away, like right away too, and a player that played in a different tier three junior hockey league before he came to our league and and kept produced. Listen, you live with the North Aisle of bowls for two years. So of course recently won the NA three championship. Totally different story for another day. But obviously rich DiCaprio texts me over the weekend saying when do we get to play North Iowa? I was like, I was like, I don't know, I don't know, man, but really fun. It would be fun cross the leagues. Well, you know who are always see together via social media. Another one Mitchell Parsons and Trevor Bry is. There's a rough riders express connection and there were. There was one year, it may have even been against each other, where there was a couple games late in the year and Brownie talked touched on this when we were talking about all the time we three goals missual Parsons. Yeah, we were talking about all the times the the chiefs and roughriders play each other this year and obviously there was like a hatred brood between the two teams. I don't know what year was, but there was one random year where the express played the rough riders for the first time ever and just killed each other and like we were trying to figure out why, like they was very met you, but I hate you. Like there was like nothing. Had never played each other. But now they're best friends in college, so it's all good, like when you leave high school and also you start hanging out people that you're like, oh, we never hung out in high school, but then in college also you like, let's be friends, like yeah, she just grow up and you move on. You get out of clicks and stuff, you know. So that brings us down to one forward left and there's there's just so many good forwards to look up and down the list. You know, I'm totally torn here. I know this is that it could be a nick coucurus or an EASTA Zuka. Obviously I...

...mentioned Tommy Schwartz name earlier. I think I know where I want to go with this. And far down here, Whoa, Oh my God, this kid speaking of everybody being friends on Freakin social media. Oh, do you know where I'm going with that? Yes, I know exactly where you're going with that. And Grab and Red Backman. He's down the list because he only played one here with the hustles forty at forty points and forty five games, went on to Plymouth State and Jeff like where he is best friends with Mike McPherson, like it is like brother and brother range and like nothing makes me laugh more than when the players post about how like the first one hundred fans gets this at the next game and like these, like these two get like they post. I can't even repeat some of it sometimes, but it's like signed, exploited cuts. It sign picture of Mike Ma Pherson's face of the next game. It's like, is that really what people want when they walk at the door? Okay, here's a fan out of me, but it was. It's so funny and obviously they're like they're very close. They're backman, as I mentioned, played just one season with the rough riders. Kind of cool at the time because his dad played in the NHL and I know there's a huge connection between the father and Eric wint and that's kind of how he ended up at with the rough riders. I mean, I'm surprised Brittany hasn't even said this yet. Are you look at did you miss the prep school that he played out Avon? Yeah, well, Stress School, but Avon, forget it. No, you can't you can't follow the crowd. One More Salisbury Person. There are there the sexy, more other the sex is Salsbury in Avon Person. Don't worry, it's one of the other. Are Not being both duly noted? Okay, bruising as you got to choose. Yeah, you can't be even in sals very sounds right. I guess we go to the D now, speaking of prep school, Carton Boys, Hashtag winch guy. That's a yeah, the whoever runs a winchington twitter account always Hashtag's winch dry and it's really funny and it isn't what she did. Prep school used to go there for high school football. We'd stay there for training camp. Fun Fact. Yeah, so carton boys, winch guy. So we have Wilkinson and boys so far and gotta get excited for this happy hap. Well, we gotta put two defensemans of the year in. You have mark happy and one and then you have gray alas, as a freaking know as best buddy. Gray is my best because he's my it was my bodies rack. He is my best friend on fantasy, but when he when do really when out and emphasize how the rough riders were going to lose in the playoffs and Owens, Jor fly, a pullet board material, prepd hers and and Brittany was actually right. Let's not let's not leave that part out. She actually was right, but he had find it. He tagged her in the Post Right, which, like what all said, done. Like when every season ends, people ask me, like what are you looking to do the most, and it's just create bus right, and it is. That's what we did. We we create people talking about it. It's all we're trying to do and it made it that much more exciting. And see just tags. Brittany in the post. Is Rider Die, Hashtag playoff, tags me in the picture and like, I think she texted me right away, a common text. I don't think you've gotten yet, Jeff. We would even talking that day. But when Brittany has something to tell me, she text me in all caps. Pause. So like, pause whatever you're doing and listen to what I'm about to just say, cause it's like it like pause. Go look at Great Ones Post. Okay, I'll go look right there, tagged in. It's in a few pauses, in the sounds familiar in our guns. It's either it's either pause or question. That's another a whole episode on that one. That was a good conversation. So that gives us D so far. Dude, look, we just have two more. Our happy was good, Yuck, gross, like the points of that kid put up triple digit points and look at three us a guy. He was an oil he was. He was leaking oil. He wasn't leaking a three US three years with the with the oilers, obviously means I forgot he was an that's I don't under in. Twenty three points like that is stupid. Like always jumped up in the play and could finish of the last.

There you go, epts, everything they show us. Last shot right there. I remember. He is honestly one of the first players I ever saw in this league, because I was right when you came in. Yeah so, because in the two thousand and fourteen fifteen season, mark took me to a game. Mark compell and mark happy did not take you to a game, and mark couple took you to a game to see bar happy correct and mark with a k mark with this. It was actually the first ever ehl game I saw was oilers, rough riders versus Rangers at the Bit at the Bick who brickly I said Mike Robinson was in net for the Rangers. You Kid. Yeah, I remember. I remember seeing happy as I got his name is happy. Always scored, always scored because it's pretty good. So it was. It's it was cool. I mean obviously a last taken place since then. Seen a few more games. Since then we're seeing our all time points list. Deal for like the League. He is. He's not in the top ten. Wow, well, I mean that's a hundred and forty. I think. What did I just say? He was a one. Totally think he's up there. He was at one hundred and twenty three total, when you can buy the regular season the post season. I mean to be at one hundred and twenty three and not be in the top ten. So that's its been a few good, good players in history, right you. There's a shocking about it. There's no defenseman even in the top ten. So I think he I want to say him, and Moreau's or probably the close our close one too, for I find of Corey didn't get her a would probably be yeah, close to and the other one. I other thing I wanted to point out before we get the final to D to finish out our our six now we didn't even mention this yet. Alex Wilkinson, F you said before, obviously went on to play at army in three seasons out of defenseman in the EHL. Three seasons. Right, he had eight pimps, lady big right there. So where's the and ill has graduated to last year from our so in a hundred and forty one games he took four penalties, Oh my God. And then look at college. He played a hundred thirty two games at only at eighteen penalty minutes. Like. So what we it is when we finished, when we finished up the all time lineups this summer and we do the odd time lineup of the all times, like this is this is the defenceman leader. Yeah, it has to be, Yep, like and I think that we have to say is, like defensemen, you can easily just somebody goes around you and you catch your stick in their skates some minutes right, like this dripping hooking to most common things. Right, guys, we're times, four times. How many kids we haven't lived. The got four Penetis in the game. Way Too many. That shows you how sturdy is he? So sturdy be to so sturdy? Right and real the other D that we're going to fill the final spots with. Obviously we're looking at the all time points list here. We kind of have to go a little bit down the list. I think I want one to be this my on hell, I thought it. I saw his name earlier. Laugh sent Blake. Halfpenny spent was his instagram handle, half sent, which is hysterical. I gets such a perfect he spent two years, two years with the rough riders and then obviously has advanced on the play at Shadow. Are you guys good with him? Laugh? said, great with set just the nickname alone. You May. I think a said is part of that. Like we go back to his EB please, Brits Commits. Brought to you by we prospect. Scroll up. He's part of the Alaska Clan Oh number mine, Eagle River and DM okay. So that's yeah, we're not seeing a lot of good people from Alaska, good hockey players. A lot of good hockey players. I've come from Alaska to here. For the last Defenseman, I'm going to switch away from points to just being intimidating, and so it is good like defense. Six Foot five was scary when I first saw this kid, Peldic shelt Charlie Pell Nick, who spent the probably I think there's a season missing in here, but he was part of the rough riders when I first got in and went on to play at s Junias we go, which is one of the top division three schools. You have to say yeah, you're in a year out there are legit contender. We touched on Norwich all the time, but os we go was is there every year as well. We don't have to include him, though.

He didn't spend as much time as I thought he did, unless there is a season missing, which it might be. No, that I was. I just remember from the playoffs that year. Okay, and a playoff too. I think it's I want to say. I want to say that ten PAMS is because he fought this like. This is what I remember. He fought Shultz from the monarchs. Jeff will remember him. You know, shoals was like, I'm leginally scared of that scary. You see him. He walked the other way. Maybe we won't go then. I want to make sure we get this one right because when we posted the wizards last week, I instantly got a message on my personal twitter from Ricky Kramer. Oh that name another defenseman who led the wizards and scoring, and I when I went back and looked, there was a season where he was the leading score on the wizards. Yaikes, and I said, well, we may have missed that one. So we're not perfect. That's we're not perfect. But actually, what about Cam Cundy? Could be a part. He was a captain. I think he was thirteen, fourteen, fourteen fifteen. He could be a possibility. We're going original, right. Yeah, another oil and plumid. Stay, Jesus Christ, here we go. You know what? I like it. I like it Jeff with the camdens up the wazoo hole. Now is the opposite. Alex Wilkinson. He was a good new hand. I don't it's like. Now, let me show you what a penalty is called Lash. What was that? Hundred thirty four of seven. Okay, so we get to yeah, Shane, he said, I love it here, aggressive. I like this. meetalty boxes in my office. That gives us one goalie left, God, and we obviously already have Michael Tilford taking up one of the spots and we need to find another one here on this list instantly. The name that stands out to me would be Jeremy Telvin, who was a one year goaltender for this team. God, I'm dating myself now. Two thousand and seventeen, eighteen season. You guys are not going to guess this either, but there is a there's a small, main connection in there. Oh, he played at Nya, North Yarmath Academy, which is a prep school in Maine. I mean there's numbers in the EHL. Where actually, you know, take the main part of out of it is numbers in the EHL. We're actually pretty solid in that. Two thousand and seventeen eighteen season, one and twenty games, two point six, nine and the eleven. Obviously I think Tilford's numbers are so outstanding that everything else looks a lot smaller compared to him. But I would say here's our second goalie right here, Jeremy Telvin. Well, what a man, okay, and that will there goes round our own roster. I think I saw a Sweden icon in there too. A lot of Sweden connection, lot of honestly Sweden. Well, yeah, Stephen loves of foreigners. And don't Steven Brown coached in Sweden for a while. He told that story during our interview and I think he loved coach there again, definitely, if he had the chance to. So that rounds out our line up, just to read it back the forwards, Walker, Harris Nick, Germaine, Joe Widmar, Alex Rowella Andrew Bella, Todd Jackson, Will Christensen, Call Colin Kane, Ludwig Steinberg, Tyler, blonda pain, Mitchell Parsons and Brett. Backman, defenseman, Alex Wilkinson, Connor Boys, smart, happy Great Owens, Blake, Halfpenny Camp Cundy. So He's Michael Telford and Jeremy Telvin. And then the utility. The utility's worked out great. And backtoback weeks. This time the utility was we want to have the Bella brothers. So we have Colin Bella listed there, which then the shit EPA s quit. Terry will yeah, it shifts us back up North Brittany and let's go with no, no, a newer team. Pick. All right, a NEWISH team. So my thing was either going to my suggestion was either going to be the red train or let's just go an h A. I think an AH. Well, Chris wants me to hold off a few weeks, so I have him right around his main camp okay. So, so I back run it back. Seahawk Hockey Club. Oh zanner, will be a great interview to okay, and of course we could touch on a new EH L P team coming for the sea sockey club as well. New logoc it is and I will. I Will...

Desk Jeff mentioned point out the new logo as well and check. I'll have to see if he wants going to do the breaking news on who is ehl P coaches, because we've texted. We've texted about that, but I'm not sure if he's ready to announce that yet. So we'll see. You can tell us as soon as you hit the end record. So that does it for the rough riders. It's the seahawks coming up next week and we'll talk to you guys. Done. Yeah, good. Thanks for listening to the show. Learn more at Eastern Hockey League Dot Org and follow us on Facebook, twitter, instagram and Youtube. Also, be sure to subscribe and get notified when next week's PODCAST is released.

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