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Episode 32 · 2 years ago

Team of the Week (Spartans) | Episode 32

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Brett Tryder is leading the way again this year, as the Seacoast Spartans embark on their 2nd season in the EHL. After putting up 17 wins and 10 NCAA Commitments during their inaugural campaign, Tryder is ready to see his team take another strong step forward this upcoming year. Overall, this will be Tryder's 3rd season serving as a Head Coach in the league, and in his mind, recruiting has only gotten easier over the years.

Welcome to the e show with Neil Ravin. With over onezero NCAA commitments, the ehl is the proven path to college. Turn it up and learn more about the college placement leader at the division two and three levels. Welcome to the east show, presented by the penalty box foundation. The foundation's mission centers around their daily motto we take care of our own as they help out all of those within the hockey community who've experienced a catastrophic event. Learn more at penalty box foundation dot Org. Once again, my name is Neil Raven. This episode number thirty two and let's welcome in this week's guest on the podcast. It's the head coach of the Sea Coast Spartans. Welcome to the east show, Brett's rider and nicer talk you, neal so Brett. This is the second time I've had you on the podcast. A lot has changed since I had you on the first time. I had you on with your assistant, Kurt Mallett, also the hockey ops guy. Therefore Sea coast, and had you on with shave plan again. But one season's over, new season coming up here. How do you feel about where things are at for you and the spartans right now compared to a year ago. I'm excited, Dell. You know, year you're under our belt here and full of guys returning. You know, I think I think we're in we're pretty good shape. I think we did a lot of good things last year, double score and goals, where I think overall, is a as an organization we did some pretty good things and we've had pretty good luck recruiting this year, I think, and I wanted to ask about that because yes, you have a few returners, but you also had a pretty older team, a veteran team. There are a lot of age outs on last year's team. was that kind of an idea of yours that you wanted to have going into an inaugural season like that? I think it would be. would be a plan. I think some of that had to do with the fact that I've brought some guys...

...up for my prior team that happened to be a Jos. I wanted to give them a chance to play in the EHL, you know. But it is probably a good idea to have a lot of age outs in your inaugural season, some guys with some junior experience that have an idea of what the league's all about and what junior hockey is all about. And with your team, it wasn't that it was a bad year by any means. You probably would have had one of the record to be a little bit higher, but you were competitive throughout. You never really seemed like an expansion team. We was that kind of a another goal to be competitive from day one, make sure people didn't think that you were just a new team in the league. Of course. Yeah, I know, I think you know, being around junior hockey enough here it was. I certainly had an idea what to expect. You know again that we were competitive in most of the Games and I think with the you know, we had one guy that got if we had one guy that got twenty five or thirty goals, you know we could had ten more wins. So I think, I think, I think you're right. We were pretty competitive and the record certainly wasn't. Wasn't what we hope for, but I think we made some strides. And I gotta bring up the end of the season schedule. I'm not sure if you remember this, but following the showcase, I mean we'll just go, will go January thirty one, the end of the year. You went avalanche, Rangers, Wizards, railers, Lumbridge, acts, for to express for to Avalanche Seahawks, Seahawks, you played like all of the top teams right at the end. So so yeah, now you come into this year scheduling our schedules up. Now, was there a goal in mine there so to avoid doing that again? Or did it help you because you won your first playoff game? Because of that, I think it's did. I think it did help us. I don't look at it too much like that. You know, if you look at who you're supposed to be, who you're supposed to lose to, you kind of making a self fulfilling prophecy. So you know, I'm happy...

...to play anybody at any time and you know, if it works out that way, it works out that way. You never know. You never know who's going to come come to come to play in a different year with a different team, and you know, you know the ABS and the Rangers are going to be tough and you know you never know. Well, so you know Walpole had a heck of a year and you know naturally you wouldn't want to schedule those guys at an opportune time. But you know, I don't think too much about it. I think you've got to play everybody in the League. You hope to be as good as those teams anyway, and if you're not, then ultimately the schedule doesn't matter. And I have to ask the next question because I've brought it up with every team of the week feature that I've done so far because obviously, with the way the season ended, every team was in the kind of their own different spot. For Your Team, you actually had just finished your first round series after knocking off Walpole. In the playing game you battled Vermont Hard, but you watch that series up there with the lumberjacks. Then the season gets canceled. Did you take a step back and say, thank God we were already out, because if we were still in and then things got canceled it would have been that much harder. Yeah, that's it's totally sort. I think you know you'd like to score yourself coach champions with the other eight teams that were allott there's that aboutation. You never want to get eliminated. I think. I think the the Walpole win was big for us, you know, and I think it was gravy after that. You know, considering where we finished the League, and I think we like you said, I think we did battle hard and Vermond, either of those games could have gone could have gone either away. So I think it was a decent closure to our season. You know, we would have loved to have still been alive and have those bragging rights, but you know, I think the closure was was fine. I think we ended up proud, proud of the way we battled Vermont, you know, and...

...happy about that. Waffle would, and that's the key word, right, closure because as a few teams that were still playing that said that they just never got that sense of closure. And what could have been if you had still been playing right, say you had gotten through Vermont during that series and then you would have had to have some sort of exit meeting with your team, whether as individual or as a whole team. How would you have what would you have said to make them feel better that the season was over before before it actually once? Well, I think I think it would have been a little bit easier for us then some of those teams that won thirty games, you know, as an underdog, I think we would have felt good about it. You know, wouldn't have felt like we left anything on the table at that point. To be completely honest with you, I do understand. You know, I sympathize rather, and you know for some of those other teams that were dirty win teams, and you know, those guys really must have felt like they could have won the league. You know, I'm sure there were five teams that were a hundred percent convinced that it was their year. So I can imagine that beings up. But you know from where we were. I think you know everyone that vermon series. That would have been our championship and I think we were okay with you. And yeah, you still had seventeen wins in the regular season and yes, it was a below five hundred record, but I'm only the bet that that reckon will improve this year. But on top of the seventeen wins, what guys always say the more important number is you look at the commitments. Your first year in the league he come out, you put up ten commitments. That's a darn good year. Is there one or two of the kids that committed? I'm sure you're proud of all of them, but is there one or two that, when that kid committed, you took a step back and said to yourself. That's that's a huge accomplishment. Yeah, I think you know, I had Shay F Lanagan for for three years. He said it the southern Maine.

I think that's a really good fit for him. You know, I think you could have played a lot of places the southern Maine, but I think that was a special one to me. I had his two brothers for two years each and sent them off to college and you know, that would have that would have stung if I if I came up empty on that one. That's a nice one for us, I think. You know, guy like drew eads heading to Worcester State. I think that's a great one for us. Just a dynamite kid, dynamite family. You know, he works hard off the ice and just such a great kid. You want to make sure those guys find a good home and I think he fits the style of Worcester and I think that's you know, that's one. I'm really happy about it as well. And you mentioned E. There's a couple kids in there that, when they gave out their quotes for you know what, who they are most thankful for and grateful for? They indicated Nick Nolt one of them. You know, when they found out that the sea coast spartans were gonna be in the EHL, they wanted to go back to the rank where they played their midgets right because they had played any teen, you or sixteen year or whatever it was there. How quickly after, you know, you became the head coach and the team got accepted into the EHL, did you start reaching out to some of those kids to see if they would come back now that there was a junior team in the EHL? Yeah, actually, we had for four guys, I guess, that left sea coast after their eighteen season. They didn't know, they didn't want to play on the independent team that we had here at the time. Those guys reached out to me. You know, being on teams in the League, I couldn't reach out to them or I wouldn't reach out to them, you know. So that was you know, one of them reached out, we talked and then you know, you've got you've got a contact the other coach and let him know what's going on and, you know, kind of progress that way. That wasn't a goal of mine to grab those guys. That was kind of those kind...

...of icing on the on the Keg and actually with, you know, Nalt and long and tired up and and eat. We were happy to have those guys back. You know, that was a good bay. That was a great base for us to start with those guys. But you know, it wasn't a situation where I was I was reaching out to them and trying to pull them back. It's more more of the fact that I'm enjoying their time up here and and, you know, enjoying the rink and everything that has to we have to offer up here. And you just mentioned a couple of names that I wanted to bring up during this podcasts in Tardiff and Dan Long, because I think what they did this past year may become really common this upcoming year. No predictions on what college hockey will do, but say college hockey gets a later start than usual and they go to like a January first start, you may see a lot of two thousands or younger that were already committed common play junior hockey and then the number of kids that take off on January one to go finish the season at the college level. That may increase. When Nevin Tardiff, when Dan long came to you and said I have a chance to commit right now for go what's left of the junior hockey season. How did those conversations go? So it's simple. You know, they were conversations that I brought to them. As a matter of fact, I spoke the coach its, you know, meally, meally at Westfield, great guy. I'm always happy to send a guy to him, you know, and he needed a guy that that was a little bit of an offensive touch on his on his blue line. Wanted to talk to long and ask me if if Dan would consider going to January. And you know, I obviously I'm going to propose that, propose that to the player. It's you. That's what we do. That's what we do. You know, we sacrifice some wins, no doubt, with long being our top scorer at the point, at that point, and entire being our top goalie. We you know,...

...we gave up some wins for that, and that's you know, that's the guys. I heard the other podcast. That's the guys tell you they're willing to do. And you know, we put it to the test. We put our money where our mouth was on that and pull the trigger. Sent those guys to good homes. You know I knew tired. If I knew tired of would have a chance to play right away, I wanted to make sure of that before I sent the goalie, goalie to play college. I want to make sure he wasn't going to fill a third spot, you know, and he went in and played right away. So you know, that's what we're all about. And at that point you're able to bring into new guys and it has two more guys you have the opportunity to place in college. So you know it's a trade right. It's a tradeoff that you're going to risk being not not as good of a team for for doing your job. And with this upcoming year, I know Valente, I believe is a two thousand kid that committed for you is from this pastor's team. If you have some of those players, I get said, I'm not going to hypothize, hypothize about what's going to happen with college hockey. You know, maybe they do start on time. If they don't, but say you do have some of those two thousands that are committed and well likely leave in January that reach out to you looking for a place to play, how do you entertain that conversation, knowing now that they're leaving halfway through the year. That's a tough one. That's a tough one. It's dangerous to take a guy away from a coach you know, and then all of a sudden, you know that you will use long for instance. You know, take him away from Westfield State, then all of a sudden, you know top ten team of the country wants him. How do you? How do you handle that like that? That's more about what? What? What makes me nervous and what would make me kind of stay away from prying those kids. Yeah, so, you know, away from the team, but when you get a nice spot, it was I'm excited for him and I hate to do any...

...any damage there. It's going to be tough to find a college spot, I think, next year if if they give those seniors their eligibility back and a lot of guys stick around in college, you don't start doing their Grat Grad school and playing one more year of hockey. So I hate to pull kid out this year where it's going to be so, so difficult to find a spot next year. And that's a great point that you just make, because the domino effect of what one player does at that next level, all the way down, can have a big impact. You know, I said this when we were in Nashville. Wis Want to get to next is. Playing College hockey is an honor, which is why we take the hundred and fifty six commits that we've had so far from this past season. We really highlight every single one of them because to make that commitment is a who huge accomplishment and for you it goes back to, you know, recruiting the kid just to come play for the team first and then what you do with that kid while he's with your program. And for the Seacoast Spartans, I saw you guys twice on the road this offseason, once in Denver and once in Nashville, to showcases that sometimes have some younger players but also have some diamonds in the rough, if you will, for this upcoming here, and both of those events were very successful for you. Can you talk about why that was? Yeah, I think I think that's a nod to the EHL, to be honest with you. You know, I think the EHL you walk in with a showcase like that and we feel like for the best the best option for those guys, you know, and and confidence comes out obviously in the conversation that we have. So, you know, the Denver one is kind of a special one for me. I love those guys out there. It's a you know, typically good culture, guys and that kind of thing, and budge of skaters. We got a couple of young guys coming in from from that showcase this year and, as you said, a couple of you know, a couple of guys that want, you know, the MVP...

...of the of the show case is coming to us, a good player. AAA kids. So that's your diamond in the rough, you know. So I think you're you're a hundred percent on with that and I think you know we would have been in Vegas if that showcase it happened. We would have been in Chicago if that showcase it happened. You know, we're building here. We're building. So you know, we're we're certainly getting calls from interested in players, but we've also got to go out and find a couple special guys the same time, and I know for myself from a League perspective, going out to those events, it's to tell kids who don't know what the ehl is. You know, lead that's on on the east coast more about the EHL. Right, so when you're recruiting those players, especially in a year like this year, how hard is it sometimes to convince the younger high school kid to leave all his friends in high school in Colorado and come play junior hockey on the east coast? I think I think not as difficult. You know this this year seemed a little bit a little bit better, and I think you know most of the kids I talked to. You talk to them on day one and they go out and do a little research that night and you see him again on day two and you find out they've talked to some people they trust and in all the word about the HL comes back positive. Their extra excited on day two after they do their research and they look at our rank and they research the league and maybe even make a couple calls about myself or cared or other guys that we have in the building. So you know, I don't think it's as difficult, you know, as it may have been years ago. Guys are nervous about their high schools and their junior teams playing this year. Certainly New Hampshire has has been in better shape with the covid situation. So I think people feel better about sending their guy to New Hampshire this year. You know, maybe getting out of California where,...

...if they played AA in California, they're only going to play in state teams right, and maybe not have the competition they normally have. So this year was kind of you all that stuff turned into positive for us. I think so you're kind of it sounds like you're almost alluding to this year being easier than last year to recruit, even with the pandemic. I think. I think so. I think you know, with guys doing the research and being nervous about about where they're going to end up, you know that they do some research on us and find out the culture is good, find out the league's all it and they, you know, they wanted to they wanted to sign and be done, be safe and start planning for the season. Well, let's let's talk of all you just kind of also mentioned a little bit in there in your facilities, right. So I reached out to all of the kids that have committed for you from this past year's team for an additional quote to talk about what made this past year special and what helped set the sea coast, spartans apart and almost all of them pointed out the facilities. Can you talk about what the ranks of Exeter has to offer and just the overall cleanliness and the two ranks and the ice time in the gym and the Academy one of the all does for the player. So I think, you know, for a player to come in at that age and see grown men buffing the floor four times a week, you know, you can eat off our floor. It's unbelievable and that sends a message, you know, to keep the locker room clean, to take care of the gym. You know, it's a special place. You know. I mean everybody's going to say they're their facility for grade, but I put this rank number one in our league, in our league, number one in tier three. So that gives us a nice, you know, a nice recruiting stance right there with the gym is beautiful. We've got a trainer that works with the guys two...

...or three times a week. Locker Room is top notch. You can we have the in synthetic ice for the goaltenders. You know, there's just there's no better facility and to see the guys noticeably working to keep it clean. You know, like I said, sends the message to the guys to take, you know, take care of it. You know, take care of it and do the right thing in the ring. Can know the facilities on campus are grade and the housing situations good to write off. We've got the apartments and houses off over Hampton Beach, which is about ten minutes away, summer beach houses. That that the guys living. So it's a, you know, all around a real good experience. So do you sell that? Maybe September you have a few more chances go to the beach she has. She'll be selling snow in December, but you can go to the beach in September. Do you sell that? Yeah, a hundred percent. Will have some workouts on the beach and you know it's great for team bonding and spending time together. So you know that that September and couple months in October, you know it's a nice time to be out there and you know again great for a great for team bonding and the boys getting together. And then within the facility, the number of staff do you guys have is extensive and it allows you to just be the head coach in the GM. Can you talk about some of the staff, like Kurrent Mallet, that help make your job that much easier? No, it's an unbelievable to you. I'm glad you brought that up. Kerr Malady, you know, wellknown guy, all American at Salem state and grade. You know, great pro career, just a dynamite guy who knows everybody in the way. When you know, I think between Kurd and him being around for so long, you've got Chris Davidson, who who coached it save Mike's for fifteen years and press school for another five and he's in the building with one of our younger teams. Ed Seeing me,...

I think, spent twenty five years and in the college rank and seing a's and Potsdam it's Michael Han is now on board. You know, nice pro career. He played for me when I coach the Plymouth state you know, short pro career and Cook from college hockey. On the women's side it's just guys in and out of the building. Right Bob, excuse me, Bob Em Bury, his kids play for our youth program. You know one of the merrimack coaches and coach sues over Unh his kids are in our program so there's always guys you know around the rink. You get the chance to go over your bottle, play with the with the head coach at Unh just, you know, talking and casually talking about stuff like that. It's a special place to be. A lot of years, a lot of years and a lot of networking. You know, there's nobody in the country we can't we can't pick up the phone and call. It's you know, from USHL teams to Division One teams to division three teams. It's you know, it's great to have that network. It's pretty important for the guys to play for a team that's good to network like that too. And when you have all these, you know, coaches that you just mentioned, with the resumes that they have coming in and out of the building in which you're the highest level team, do you ever feel sure when those guys are walking around and maybe give a game going on or whatnot? You know, I'd beat most of them when I was go to the Plymouth so I'm not worried about that. No, I think I think it's all good. I think there's just such a healthy atmosphere of a what were you doing on that penalty kill though, come to me and, you know, find out how it was setting that up, and you know, it's a really, really healthy back and forth. I don't feel like there's any eyes on us, except maybe to write down something we're doing or you know, you know we want to say answers is no, not really. It's not a pressure situation at all. It's...

...more of a combined effort in a complementary, proplementary group. You know. And now, as we begin to look ahead to this upcoming here, we kind of touched on this a little bit earlier in the scheduling process and the gauntlet that you went through at the end of the year and then this year, kind of out of our control, we had to schedule things in a certain way where we knew that games could be played. So between when you kick off the season and Thanksgiving, you play fifteen games of your rank, two games up in Bideford, Maine with the eclipse and one game at Meryl Fay in La Coney against the wolves. So you don't really leave, you know, a fifty, seventy five mile radius of your rank up until after thanksgiving. Obviously that's not by choice, that's because of what's going on. How will you folk, you know, keep your players focused during that time and know that the trips, the longer trips, are coming, you know, in the second half of the season. Yeah, we don't have a we don't have a ton of trips that we'd read a lot. You know, we're in such a nice spot. You know, I think I haven't even got our home and away record last year, but I'm sure there wasn't too much difference in our home. In a way, travel in this league is is a treat really. You know, it's right up the road and we played in every rank at you know, there's nothing daunting really about our about our travel. So you know we don't mind being the away team as much. Muchure that it's time to prepare for for their I you know, be nice to reverse it right and play all the Games on the road and then the in the beginning before the snow hits and all the Games and at the end of the year at home when there's snow. But you know, you can't do much about it, I don't think really as much prep is just to be aware of it. You know, hopefully we get on a rhythm of playing home games and that's what we're used to. So we're good...

...and then we getting a rhythm of playing real games and we getting that rhythm and that's it's us, you know. So yeah, just about creating, you know, separating the two halves of the season and and treat them kind of differently. It's a good point because your longest trips really are a weekend in Vermont and a weekend on the Cape. It's just funny how the schedule works out this year that you're basically home, the first half, on the road, the second half the showcase. For the second straight season, you guys are going to host a showcase in January to have an event like that. I know you said there was no pressure before. You Know, when you're coaching the building, but do you feel pressure from the League to host a better event? But not after the show that Kurt Mallett and in the crew put on last year? There's a you know, we take a lot of they took a lot of pride and that I think last year. Hopefully the League feels the same we you know, it's an excitement at this point. You know you get to see all the all your buddies from college coming in and you know getting them a cup of coffee and all that kind of stuff. So it's you know, I think it's some prep work to be done, but I don't think there's any any chance or chance of failure, you know or you know. So there's no nerves. I don't think nerves would be the right, right way to put it. Really just kind of an excite. You know, we look forward to it. We look forward to seeing everybody and showing off our building and you know, we're excited for it again this year. This year should be even a bigger event, I would think. You know, and there's only to showcases right now. Unfortunately had to cancel the Massachusetts showcases because it's just very uncertain when we can even play games in mass but I'm sure you've you've noticed on a few of the team of the weak features of kind of wrapped every one of them up the same way in creating what we've called the all time lineup. Question. I had to frame it in different ways based off of the coaches history. But...

...for you, you used to be the independent junior coach for the wolves. They had any had a year with the wolves the two thousand and sixteen seventeen season. You mentioned, you went away from the League for two years, two thousand and seventeen, eighteen and eighteen nineteen, and then back to the league this past year. So let's let's take out the two thousand and sixteen seventeen, the two thousand and nineteen twenty seasons right, one with the wolves, one with the spartans. From those two teams, can you give us the all time Brett try to line up with three forwards to go to Defenseman of the goalie. That was ober. You were going to let me have those, those independencies. Well, you can mention one or two if you want to. YEA like the calling Borg at UNAGE and nickey Marin and Lowell Musul museful you may or no. You know, we have some we have some pretty pretty special players. When I moved from from college a juniors, you know. But you know some of the guys that I've had. A had the Jimmy Hazelton was in eighteen year old when I had my first year in the EHL. At him again, you know, for a couple of years after that, but you know he's at Endicot now defense and really Nice Claire. You know, Nick Nolf would probably be on his left makes kind of a special player. He came at you know, you get some penalty trouble last year, but you know, just a just a special player. I didn't have too many defension better than him, you know, in our league, in our league this year. So I think those two on the Blue Line would certainly be competitive with anybody. Shay Flanigan's going to take my face off, you know. Again you you put him with somebody that can bury and he's a six year seventy point guy. Unfortunately didn't have that really this year for him, but you know, still had a thirty point season had and do, and you may main southern Maine. So planning would be...

...taking the face off Jackson Penner probably had a probably up and not a left wing for me, another thirty point guys, an eighteen year old last year, you know. And then on the right wing you got a kid like both jars and who had easy year for us this year. I had some college offers. Actually he could have been another placement but decided he's going to Florida Gulf coast and I wasn't going to talk him out of that one. Just to put it on a website. So you can't stuck. So I could sho out of Florida Gulf coast and that's it. It will be an enemy for life. So he's he's heading down there. I had a kid named Etan home. It's I'm not sure if you remember, eating play for us and at the wolves, who was a dynamite player. became a really good player too, you know, and then I think tired. If you know, if you give me those two years, tired of without the would have to be our goaltender. You know, really, really good player. He's going to have a great college career. Excited to keep watching him and it's a good lot up. It's a good line up and I remember home it's as well, one of the kids that had the most speed in the entire league that two thousand and sixteen seventeen season. So I want to thank you for coming on the PODCASTS. Obviously a very weird time right now, but it sounds like for you guys things are going going even better despite the pandemics, so I appreciate coming on the podcast. Definitely a team and Organization for all the folks at home to keep an eye on. I know it's just their second year in the league, but it feels like the seacoastpartans have been in the ehl forever. So thanks for your time, Brett. Thanks for having you're looking forward to getting things going. Thanks for listening to the e show. Learn more at Eastern Hockey League Dot Org and follow us on Facebook, twitter, instagram and Youtube. Also, be sure to subscribe and get notified when next week's PODCAST is released.

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