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EHL 10th Anniversary Team of the Week (RoughRiders) | Episode 135

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On this week's episode of the #EShow, we cross off the final Team of the Week feature of the off-season by highlighting the Connecticut RoughRiders. Eric Lind and Steven Brown join the podcast (1:17) to reflect and look forward, as the longest tenured coaching duo in the history of the league. While there are other coaches who have also been in the league since its inception back in 2013, no other pair of coaches has remained together with the same organization for that entire time. To wrap up the off-season (16:24), the #ECrew puts together one final Top 10 selection which includes a pair of brothers that each posted a 40-goal season.

Welcome to the show with Neil Raven. Founded in two thousand thirteen, the E H L has become the college placement leader on the East Coast. Sit Back and learn more about the next step in your junior hockey career. Welcome to the show presented the pollion box foundation. The foundation's mission centers around their daily motto we take care of our own as they help out all of those within the hockey community who experienced the catastrophic event. Learn more at Palty box foundation dot Org. What's up? My name is Neil Raven and this is episode number one thirty five of the show. On this week's episode we cross off the final team of the week feature of the off season by highlighting the Connecticut rough riders. Eric Lynd and Stephen Brown joined the podcast to reflect and look forward as the longest tenured coaching duo in the history of the League. While there are other coaches who have also been in the lead since its inception back in no other pair of coaches had remained together with the same organization for that entire time. To wrap up the off season, the group puts together one final top ten selection, which includes a pair of brothers that each posted forty goal seasons. I'm joined now by Eric Lindon Stephen Brown of the Connecticut Rough Fridays. Has It going, guys? Good? Thank you doing well, Neil? How about yourself? I'm doing well. You guys asked me to feature you guys last this off season. So Um, you are an original six franchise though, so pointed to talk about with you and your organization. But let's start off the way that I've started every interview this offseason. When you look back on the season this past year, what are the first thoughts to come to mind for you guys? Last season was quite difficult as far as being on the back end of Covid in the season before that, very difficult in recruiting and just trying to get the type of players that we are interested in for development. Um. So that being said, I think that this this year, moving forward, we seem to be headed in a better direction than we were in past years and so a little bit handcuffed in previous years based on our traditional uh path that we take. Do you feel that same way, Eric Um? It was definitely challenging the last two years with the COVID and the ranks and navigating it and, Um, yeah, getting it feel like. Uh Yeah, my wife and kids love me. Um peple covid every other month. But no, obviously we had to deal with it. Um, right, every every sports team and how to deal with it and navigate around it. And Uh, you know, I feel like we're finally getting over the Hump of Covid and getting a focus on hockey again, Um, which is which is nice. So I'm really looking forward this year, Um, and just kind of getting back to some normalcy for sure, and that's what's great to hear the sound in Your Voice, the positive outlook of looking forward to this season, the tenth year of the e H L. and I know I've asked you guys this but before. Obviously there are other coaches that have also been in the League for ten years, but no duo has been in the same place together for that entire time. What is it about your chemistry that keeps the two of you together? It's definitely a ying Yang type of chemistry. So if people meet Eric and I separately, we have obviously different types of personalities. I tend to be a little bit quieter, Eric's a little more outgoing. Um, but uh, the synergy is definitely there as far as you know, organizational wise. Uh...

...are our long term goals, or mid term and short term goals? Um? Are Our philosophies have basically merged over time and we've developed, uh, you know, a system of development that we think is like no other program out there, um. And it's also quite unique too, because a lot of teams across the United States and Canada have multiple teams in the junior ranking. They have eight team teams under them. But we're we're in an island which we choose to be on, because we just want to focus on the players that we bring in and developed them without, uh, you know, having this type of movement up and down in sideways. So you know, when a player comes us, we we want to make sure we're going forward, uh, and developing the player that's coming to us for the development, and that's the philosophy that Ark and I have developed a lot more over the years that we stand by for sure. And Eric, off of that, um I mentioned, we're only end of the tenth season, but your time together really stretches back further than ten years. Does it feel like it's still a year one or year two together at times, or it does it feel like all this time has really truly passed? Um? No, we're going on in our eleventh year here together, Um and with the organization actually existing here, and so no, Um, it's gone by really quick. Um. And you know, I think we obviously we love working with each other and we've grown as people and as coaches and Um, you know, we just keep every day trying to get a little better. That's what we say the kids and UH, yeah, it's been it's been a pleasure and uh, obviously the kids realize how much we care and we put in our product and uh, you know, really trying to develop them as players and people. And I think coach Brown and myself have, you know, taking that philosophy and applied it to our own lives and and and and to our on ice product. For sure. And I know we're kind of looking more forward now to with the new season just a week away, but I do have to look back in one more area for this past season, because you guys had calling Bella this past year, one of two Bellas that you've had, and it was really just an absolutely historic year for him. Obviously he finishes as the all time goals leader in league. History set the record passing his brother for goals in a single season. As he's going through this past year, Um, what conversations are you guys having with each other as he's kind of having this, like I said, a historic season, I think ultimately, you know, last year we had a very good first line, you know, tactically, Um, and a lot of the burden was on on that line to carry the team forward, because we have good disparity between our age groups. You know, you see a lot of teams that have tremendous amount of age out players, but we try to balance it throughout because that's part of the development. It's hard for us to get a player in for one year and then do what we want to do developmentally and turn them around. So, Um, you know. That being said, Um, this year we have more depth across the board, uh, and we're excited for that. A little bit more balanced and we we don't know. I mean somebody could rise to the top, but it was in an extraordinary year from him. He was just able to find that that left, left side, right side, uh, you know, taking shots that I thought I would tell him that we're Um, uh, geometrically impossible. You know, and they were just some fine somehow, some way find then that complete different player than a j. A J was that grinder, Phil Kessel type of player. Uh, you know, and and UH. And Colin was just, uh, just a sniper. So if I had to put you on the spot, you had to pick one, Agr, Colin, who would you pick? A J do to go in depth or is that just the one...

...word answer? That's it? Okay, but in looking forward to this year, obviously you guys the rosters are gonna start coming out here soon for all of our teams. One of the names returning from you guys that I know I had to rub call it a little bit yes, but one of the names that immediately popped out for me on your list was Karen Chung, obviously returning to you guys for a second year. I have to kind of pitch myself that he's only an o four did what he did accomplished this past season. Did that surprise you guys at all? Would did you expect that? It was definitely a shock because I know Karen from for five years now. So he would come from England to Sweden in the summer where I would be working and work with me for a few weeks there, um, and then he went to C I H A up in Canada for a few years. But during covid uh they hardly played any games, just even, you know, Inter squad games and in a few games games over so many years. So he didn't have the game experience, Um, and also when he's home for the summers in the UK they have very little ice time as well. Um. But you know, he he definitely had some pedigree underneath him. I thought he would have a good season, but by no means based on the time he was off from the rink I would I would think that he would develop that way, you know. So we were very, very surprised and it was an amazing season for such a young player. When he has that like success as such a young player in the league, how do you kind of talk to him about coming back this this new season and manages his expectations where he doesn't feel too much pressure early on? You know, I mean I think the thing is that he has to still continue to walk until he's able to run. Obviously, like with a lot of players, and especially our agile players, that were looking for some more NA bids. You know from from last year and trying to move a tier up to tier to Um. The reality is is that we are still based on their d three track or d two track. It's still the best place for them. With Karen a little bit different. I was a little bit surprised that there were more teams not, you know, gloaming after him based on his age. UH, straight up, Um. But we explored some of those avenues with him, had some discussions over the summer with his parents, Um, and at the end of the day we thought this still was the best place for him for this coming season. Um, and we'll see how it goes. I mean, you know, if you if you can super tear it up during the season, we'll be glad to move him one, you know for sure. But right now I think it's a great place. Rom. Yeah, and the goal with him is he comes developed one more year to us and then we moved him on to our USAH L team, being awesome, awesome next step for him. Um. And you guys kind of alluded to this earlier, Um, that you've never really been a team top heavy with age out players. You've had youth kind of throwout out your roster, especially in the goaltending position this past season. When, when players in that position can come back with a year of experience, how valuable do you think that will be for those guys? I know there's two of them in particular coming back to you for a second year this year. Yeah, I mean with with Dan Yarrow, which I mean, you know, both players are coming at an elite hockey Um, both from Colorado Junkins now in Connecticut. They moved here, the family moved here. Um, but you know, as far as Dan's expectations, he's coming off of, you know, hip, major hip injury with surgery recovery last year. So last year was a bounce back year for him and you know he struggled last year. I'm not gonna say so much in net necessarily, but just basically on the recoveries point, you know, a lot of a lot of pain during the year. Uh, you know how to change his pads and his case, Craig hight who's our goalie coach, who's also goalie coach at sacred heart universities, in a sixth season and you know we're patient with him. So we're you know,...

...he's got a great opportunity this year. You know, and then with with the junk in. Um, he's got a lot to prove. You know, he was trying to also make a jump up this this off season. Uh. And Uh, you know, once again it's the best place for him where he's gonna be able to, you know, get that net and and try to prove that he the d three player for sure. And Eric, will you take this next one, because I know you do all this scheduling every offseason for the rough riders. Um. And you mentioned earlier how tough the past two seasons have been with Covid, especially two years ago. You've faced the Chiefe. I couldn't tell you how many times. Um. Six more times last year finished the season and an intense playoff series against them and then right back at it next week Holman home series to start the year. Um. Was that planned with coach effort in? Uh No, but they started the Connecticut Cup and I believe won that, so we got to take that home this last year. So but no, it was obviously with covid and the in state and you can only play one team a hundred times. Um. Yeah, that that was crazy with all the rules and stuff there. So we did see each other a lot there and uh, that was percent not planned. It just the way the state regulations came Um, that was it. And why not start off this year or two more against each other get him out of the way early. But before I bring jeff and Anthony on, obviously I'm not sure if you don't noticed, but every every week this offseason we've done a top ten selection, top ten players in franchise history. So for you guys you have nine seasons of history to go off of, which is as long as anybody uh in our league, and so many great players throughout that time. Um, many of which we're gonna mention during that segment. But help us start the list. Give us that one player that that you would say starts that list for the rough runners, I would uh. So we'd have to go with Alex Wilkinson. Um. He was here with us for three years. Um He developed probably as one or two of the best development players from starting out with us all the way to his third year. Just unbelievable transformation he made. Um just got better and better each year and then uh obviously went on the army. Um had to beg them to take him, but he end up being uh, you know, sophomore year got atlantically best defenseman the year. I wanted to be a captain with them. Um, it's we uh, we actually went out to dinner with him a few weeks ago and stuff. And now he's transitioned in the real world. I was trying to get him the goal play pro in Europe, but he didn't take his West Point degree and get a real job. But yeah, he's hands down, Um, I would say, most improved player and uh, he did very well at the college level and I know that for myself personally, what he did offensively definitely stands out. But the fact that you can count how many penalties he took on one hand over three seasons is just insane. How do you think he managed to place? That's a clean game. I mean I like I have to go back to like a Nicholas Lyndstrom right, like just so smart with hockey I q and position, you know, not getting in those positions where he's taking a hooking or tripping penalty. Um, just very, very high hockey I q and Uh, really really uses stick well in his body position very well. What are we gonna say, Stephen? Yeah, I mean that's that's hockey. I Q right there, you know, and super discipline and therefore, you know, eventually going army. I mean it sort of makes sense, you know. Yeah, and it takes it takes a lot of focus on...

...the ice to make sure you stand on a box. It's a great place to start. I'm sure we'll talk a lot about the Walker, Harris is, the Bella brothers and even more when I get jeff and Anthony on. So I appreciate you guys coming back on the podcast and good luck next week with the start of the season. Thanks, thanks for having us, man. Appreciate up the great work. Thank you. Thanks again to Eric Lynd and Stephen Brown for coming on the podcast this week and with that let's bring in the e crew. Guys. This is crazy. This is our last team of the week feature of the off season. Anthony, you said this before. I kind of agree with you. Now I feel like this is maybe one of the longest off seasons we've ever had. Yeah, definitely up there, because I mean this season and last season you end in late March, early April and the season doesn't start for another five months. That's almost half a year's absurd. It is true. I never really thought of it like that it is really almost half a year that we spend kind of just milling through this summer waiting for hockey to come back, going one week at a time with these features. And we actually ended three in a row with three straight original six franchises. As I've mentioned a few times throughout the summer, this is the rough riders slash oilers episode, because they were originally called the oilers. There was a season whether we're the oilers and the rough riders in the League. That happened just one year Um, but that was the year that the oilers changed their name to the rough riders. But you know what's still pretty cool, and I know Chris Serella is gonna Bark at this next point I'm about to make because he's been in the league just as long, but Eric Lynd and Stephen Brown are the two guys that have the longest tenure together in the league right. Nobody else has been with their organization for every single season that the e H L has existed. So for these two to continue to work as well as they do together every single day, that's Damnon press. Yeah, and they have they have a championship trophy. Yeah, that was a few years ago and they're trying to get back to their ways. UH, they're winning ways that they had back in those mid uh, I don't even know what the heck we call those early days of the H L um well, and you know like that they have the continuity right, and Eric has a professional career, just like a lot of these uh coaches had. He played for a while and they won that championship back in Fourteen fifteen. Had A couple of good years after that. There were another team that was part of that mess. That was a very good team that we're not sure where they would have went. Had Sixty points. Probably could have made a lot of noise with both Bella brothers, who I'm sure we're probably gonna put both of them on the list. I had taken out. I mean they were okay Um, but yeah, the last few years kind of rebuilding years. So interested to see how the rebuilding continues and where they go this season. Also, Neil, I want to ask a quick question. So is this original six more original than the NHL's so called original six? I have a I have a bone to pick with the NHL original six. That's not original. That's the surviving six. I think teams like the Montreal Wanderers, the Seattle Metropolitans, the Ottawa senators were all like a word with the BRUINS, rangers, red wings, Blackhawks, Canadians and maple leafs, fronto, which was just named Toronto. We will have a we all have a separate podcast episode. I'm censored, not about the e h L. to break down the original six at some point and many of the h l actual original six, three letter league baby. But let's jump into this...

...because, um, as the coaches have done all off season, they've begun our list for us and uh, this was tough for Eric because there's plenty of names, as we say every week, that he could have said that we're probably gonna say, but he had to pick one. And Jeff, I know how much you love Pims, but Alex, I love this kid for that reason. Alex Wilkinson is like the first Pims, right, like he he was with the rough riders in the early years when they were still the oilers, right for the three seasons, thirteen, fourteen, fourteen, fifteen, fifteen sixteen, I still can't believe this. Like he had eight total penli minutes. I mean, we've done this now what. This is the third summer of US doing like all timetube stuff, and every time we get to him we still are befuddled by his numbers, like a hundred and twenty two regular season games, not the six points. So he's playing a lot of hockey. He's on the ice a lot, he's clearly gonna go out of ice time and is a two way defenseman. He's offensive and defensive. So he's that means he's around the PUCK A lot. He's around with bodies a lot, which means in the game of hockey, when you're playing on ice, that your stick could slip or your shoulder goes a little hot. No, this kid was the definition of structure, everybody or something defenseman. So in three seasons he averaged just over one modern penalty per year. Yet pretty year. Think about the guys that go out and get like two tripping miners in the same game, right like, think about the guys that I mean, we've talked about this a lot, the guys that go drop the gloves. They're out next year, like no suspensions, not eight penalty minutes, eighteen. And then in the postseason, in the postseason, Nineteen Games, fifteen points, zero, zero down. He's like, all right, I've had enough, I'm gonna wrangle back in. Guys. I'm sorry, I got my one, my one mind or this year. No minors in the playoffs like he like. And I understand why Eric started with Alex Wilkinson. There's a bunch of other names that he could have started with. Some stunts, right, but I mean he was amazing in college too. I got to watch him in army when they played Bentley. He was there for four years. He left in the season. He was just as good and continued to get better every year there too. So to keep reviewing pims when he got to army year one. Four UH total to minors over the course of the year. Is a sophomore year. Six minors that year. Said said, you know what, first two years have been too much. I'M gonna get take one minor my third year and then my senior year we're just we're not going to go at all. I mean, that is just insane, because it's not like he is is barely playing, like he's playing huge minutes. Like he is playing big minutes. He's it's not like he avoids contact, he's defense spent right. This is one of the cleanest hockey players, the most skilled hockey players we've ever had in the history of this league. There's no doubt about that. A lot too he wore letters to the oilers. He was an assistant and a captain of than an army. He was an assistant captains last year. Now it makes me wonder if his sophomore year and maybe he was hanging out with some some people in the Marine Corps just going it up. Oh Man. But to recap the points, as I mentioned, he had ninety six regular season points over the course of his career in the E H L, fifteen in the postseason. At College he put up seventy six points throughout his time. To go through what he won when he was in college, Um, all rookie team his first year, the best defenseman in the Atlantic Hockey Association the second year that was also a first team. Uh, selection the sportsmanship award obviously makes sense. Uh, that that senior year. I mean just an unreal talent. And obviously...

...he was on the all time team. He was also on he must have been on our all time E H L team. Yeah, obviously he was on there. I mean to go straight from the E H L into a division one program and be effective as he has, as he had with army. Yeah, that that is in itself an incredible, incredible accomplishment. Accomplishment. Sorry, it's early in the morning. I can still barely talk. Well, for him to make that kind of jump is no simple task and I think it's a good reason why he was the first one selected on this list. So it felt like Eric and Steven know that we're gonna get to the Bellas, we're gonna we'll get to them next. But the next day they really wanted to say was Walker Harris. So if, if, if Wilkinson was one of their you know, if not their favorite defenseman throughout their time. Walker Harris was their favorite forward, I would say throughout their time. This is no shot at the Bellas, right, Um, but Walker Harris, I'll talk about wearing letters. That's a picture of him with a C on at Wesleyan, right. So he spent justice. Sorry, sorry, I should say one season with the oilers. became the rough rash. I've said that too many times. Um, he actually got connected Um with the organization through the part of that they have on Colorado. That's kind of how this whole rough riders thing for him. Maybe they grew this big affiliation across the country. See, Brown will tell you if you ask him. Remember him telling me one of those thirds about that for about ten fifty minutes. Give me. He's a good historians Brown. Yes, Mr Brown, buddy. But then, obviously, when played four straight seasons at Wesleyan afterwards, in every year the point totals one up at Wesleyan, twenty one and twenty three, then thirty one than thirty three. Um, I mentioned he or the sea for Wesleyan, helped them win a nest act title. I mean just look at all the all conference awards that he won. Um within the nest act and within all of division three as well, where it says a H C a. That factor is in all of division three hockey players. So he was as dynamic as it gets. I have to check and see if he still has one of the best instagram user names of all time. I I should have looked this up before. Um, I think I remember bringing this up before too, trying to remember what the heck it was. I he used to be like I get three puts for bogey or something like that. Like like instagram. He's probably gonna listen to this and then messes me afterwards and say you got it wrong. Um, but he was awesome. I mean, I know it was just a single season in the E H L, but it's it's just cool to see what the League has turned into, because this is a kid from Colorado who probably, when you go back to his high school days, had no idea what the e H L was right, but comes over, it comes across the country, I should say, plays a single season and then ends up at one of the best academic schools in the country in Wesleyan. So I understand why the rough ras a little bit torn. I mean both those players were gonna be on the list no matter what they said. UH, start with Wilkinson, then go to Harris and then, I guess, if you guys want to to be just automatic, automatically put the Bellas in. I mean that just makes sense, right. Yeah, Anthony, it's Colin Bell, your favorite player in this for the League. Um, that that that would be tough. Considering I do because of me, the homer that I am for the eight...

...sevens, but like also declan house has to be up there as one of my favorite players of all time. But I will say this much, with Colin and a J Bella, those two, at least from what I've seen when I've been around the E H L for five or six seasons now, they have the two best shots I've ever seen, where, if they had a clean look, they were probably beating the goaltenders, no matter who's in net now. They were just pure bona fide snipers. And you know, having that interview, I did the Q and a with Colin, talking with him about growing up in his household with a j, the stories that he told me about, you know, playing knee hockey uh in their living room, him and a j teaming up on their younger brother just checking him straight through a window. I mean that reminds me a bit of myself and my older brother when we played, you know, all the broken windows, fence posts, car mirrors. So I think in that respect it was a little relatable to except Colin's like five times the hockey player I ever was. So what was the bet that they had this past season because Colin was was chasing a J's record of forty goals? Yes, it was. It was a forty goal market. Wasn't so much the Career Total, which Colin passed two, but it was it was who could have the better or have more goals in their age out season. So I think a J had forty, if I'm not mistaken on the DOT. And for Colin, I forget how many he had by the time I interviewed him because I think it was around the holiday break. Colin may have been around. So he only really needed, you know, like thirteen more goals, but he just blew right by it because he just turned it on the second half and I think it was donut delight at some like in their hometown in California, when it gets a cup of coffee on the half of the other brother. So Um. But Yeah, Colin in the record books nine two all time total goals right, that's combined regular season and postseason. That's gonna be a hard number to reach. Yeah, that's that's a Wayne Gretzky type actually that might stick for quite sometimes. The other the other thing too is that if there's anybody that could probably uh, if there is anybody that could kind of threatened that record, there's also the chance that they could get called up to say, the North American Hockey League or the U S H l. So I I think for longevity in the League is also a factor, for sure. That's a good point. Good Point. Times have changed, development is changed for so many different leagues and guys trying to start one place and go to another. That's a really good point. I mentioned, alright, said a lot last week that last week, because one of the hardest with the little flyers. May had Tom wilms on. This could become harder, but so far Wilkinson, Harris Bella. Bella is like a J is at Manhattanville. I thought for a while call would end up in Manhattanville also, but he's heading off to Lake Forest College this fall. Um. But shifting back to Manhattanville, I need to get to the second all time winning score in the history of the rough riders and a captain now at Manhattanville. That's Alex Rowella. He was a captain for the rough riders as well, spent three seasons, just like Alex Wilkinson, and it's just kept producing at Manhattanville as well. So I think.

I mean, I know he's second here, but he has to be on this list also. Yeah, of course, another easy addition. Do we want to go back to former record holders because for the longest time, the winds record belonged to Michael Tilford. Whenever I think of goalies in my early years, I guess you could say of the E H L, I just remember Tilford being the workhorse for the oilers at the time. They would they would plug him in that literally every single game there were. There were no nights off, and that's why he racked up forty five wins over the course of his career. You guys go with Tilford? Yeah, absolutely. Here was someone I mentioned when we were having our pre show conversation and uh yeah, easily the best goal either the rough riders slash oilers have had, and then went off to play at Nazareth after that. So yeah, I mean quickly, that's six guys so far. Should we slow down? Trying to think of some story times. I have a few good stories, Anthony. All right, don't don't hold out on us. Okay, so we're just start adding in more players. Go right ahead. Um, I got a text from bill xanna bony one year when the rough riders were in all I should figure this out. Is it in on the Cape or in the Cape? I never really realized that. I think they're on the Cape. Right to face the SEAHAWKS. I mean, yeah, so they were. They were on Cape Cod. I guess I'll go with that for now. Um, to face to face the SEAHAWKS, and bill texted me in between periods and stead our game is a little bit behind schedule, and I said, okay, like sometimes games go by fast, sometimes games don't go by fast, like that's fine. He's like no, there was a big delay before they dropped the puck. Neither coach was ready to start the game. And I was like what does that even mean? Like neither coach was ready. He's like, yeah, both teams were. If you go back and watch hockey TV, both teams were on the bench, but there were no coaches because Eric and I got were too busy laughing in my office together and like its like what? He's like, yeah, he goes. Dude, his laugh is absolutely contagious, like his laugh makes you laugh. But I was like, I guess I've never really thought about it, but yes, like when you hear Eric Laugh, Um, it is kind of a contagious laugh, but it makes you want to laugh as well. And I guess they were just, you know, shooting the blank and build got up and they just lost track of time and all of a sudden the game is about to start but there's no coach on either bets because they're still in bill's office. I was like, okay, well, I mean thanks for their heads up when you finished the game. You finished the game. I mean they're the one that has to get on the road and head back to Connecticut, so so be it. But Um, pretty funny. That's one Eric Linn story that will always think. They laugh. The second one, Um, I actually mentioned the hooks that showcase last week. Yes, so this was the hook sets showcase at the previous Hook set team in the monarchs. Um, they were I don't even know what they called their two rakes there. It was the rink of the right. I think they go north and south. I forget, but I look over at I think it must have been the south rink and the Zamboni is getting off the ice with like man I felt like half the sheet still to go. I was like, Oh God, Zamboni was about to catch on fire or they ran out of water or...

...something and they we're gonna be delayed and this and that. But then it looked further down the building and Eric Lynde is helping the Zamboni guy get off the Zam and I'm like what, what, what is he doing down there? All of a sudden he gets on the Zamboni and he backs this thing right up onto the ice and I'm like, Oh my God, what is going on? Mark comple was with me in the League at the time. I immediately went and grab mark and I said, mark, are we covered for this insurance? Wise he finishes cutting the whole ice. Comes up in between periods. It says, I know it's not only my place, but like, if I did not take over, that ice would have been dangerous for the players to skate on afterwards. And I was like, Whoa so newseum driver not having a great time? No, no, but you know, it proves the point that our coaches can do anything, and they can. They can coach, they can they can drive the Zamboni like they can coach and other areas to deal. They can see what a player is, you know, needs to go in and have some more video hours and they can see what a Damn Boni driver also needs the same and I'm sure coach Lynn went back and said, hey, let's go watch how they cut the Boston Garden years ago. Let's go watch how they cut the Hartford Civic Center. And if I'm not mistaken, I think Eric Lynde is also considered one of the better skating instructors. Yes, yes, in hockey. So I think if there's anybody who is a stickler for ice conditions, it would be him. But I also just want to say from, you know, the time I've been calling the eight seven's, I've spoken to a lot of coaches and Eric Lind is definitely up there. It's one of the nicer coaches I've spoken to, someone who you can get a lot of information from before a game, Stephen Brown as well. Just a great coaching staff and should should be fun having them coming back to Jersey shore arena this season. Always Fun Games between those two teams, without a doubt. So back to the top of ten after those two stories, or should we go a third story? Guys on the list? Okay, so we got six guys so far. Um, we got a defense been covered, obviously, we got a goalie covered and we got four forwards. Um, looking now back at the all time team, just to start rattling off some names that we could throw here, we have Walker Harris, we have a j Bella. I don't remember Ludwig Steinberg, but we'll have to look up his stats. I do remember Nick Jermaine because he went on to be a captain at my alma mater quite peak. So I'm pretty sure we have to put Jermaine on just for that sole reason alone. But Todd Jackson was another. No, I want to say actually North Carolina. Let's check my my brain here. I think he was another, just like woke in North Carolina, player who um ended up with the rough riders. Look at that, look at that memory right there. He actually then went on the Norwich. I remember that first year at Norwich, sixteen seventeen, he scored the game winning goal for them in the National Championship game. So Todd Jackson another Nami Canto on their tyler bona pain. He was a player who actually began with the warriors Um and really was producing fine there. But they was that the trade? I think that was the east of Zuka trade either. So He's another one I found today. I was like, Oh, we forgot to put him on. Was a great player with the rough riders. Oh yeah, Joe Widmar. I don't remember him because I wasn't in the League yet. Maybe you know. You know who he was. Jeff will remember the name. Well, Christensen a...

...few, a few solid seasons, Um, with I should say a solid season, I mean he put up a hundred and five points. Um. Now he's at St a's. Uh. Mitchell Parsons, I definitely have to mentioned his name because he went on to play at Sunny Brockport. But we always talked about the parents that stay in touch. So Mitchell is from Michigan and his dad is the athletic director at Grandville High School and like constantly reaches out to me to stay in touch, talk about what's going on. Excited that we're facing brockport this year. But then we also had our Michigan combine this past or earlier this summer I should say, and he helped get a lot of guys from Granville High School there. So huge advocate for the leave. You mentioned Alex Rolla, Um, Colin Caine, cousin of Patrick Caine. Um. And then we get two coaches, or I get I say coaches because this one totally caught me off guard the other day. You guys are not looking at this year's new registration system. By the way, and and I'm getting all these registrations coming in for our coaches and then all of a sudden I get one for Brett back then and I'm like, wait a second, I didn't realize that he was at the point where he could be graduating now from Plymouth state. So assuming he's coming back to help out his former junior team, we're getting we're getting sold. Players are turning into coaches and we're in our thirties now. Yep, we have Alex Wilkinson. We should mention mark happy, another three year guy. He was a defenseman of the year. Um, when he was with the rough riders, Blake Halfpenny instagram name was half sent. That was incredible. That was that was incredible. Um, we mentioned Colin Bella. We mentioned Michael Tilford, Connor Boys, another awesome defenseman for them, a big fantasy pick of yours. Yes, I want to get that's the next story. Um, Cam Cundy, I don't remember him, so maybe you do. Jeff Jeremy Telvin was a solid goalie, and then Gray Owens was my boy in fantasy. But I know Anthony wants to get a couple more players before I tell the story. Let's get happy on they're happy. He's another guy I forgot. He played that big games as a all oilers to fourteen, fifteen, fifteen, sixteen, sixteen seventeen. was the captain that sixteen seventeen year. Another guy that points just grew as the points and pims grew in his career. They're not a Alex Wilkinson of the year that when fifteen sixteen went on to play at Plymouth State. Big Kids, six four, twitter pounds. I think it was a left shot. Yeah, he was a left shot. I remember that left shot the very twenty five points, forty one points for three four points PIMS, thirty four, he said, you said he's six four. Did did he fall victim into the big kid rule? Was gonna say probably a little char I asked. With the especially the left stick, get something with lefty defenseman, big tall lefty defenseman. I don't know. The refcs see those penalties a little easier than the righties. Um, the very first E H Sall game that I ever went to, I remember walking in break, breakaway ice center it was. It was oilers versus ranchers in the First Jersey I see in the entire building just says happy on the back and I was like okay, happy to be here, like Neil's dad joke. Mine took right over and he's like I immediately it was actually that was gonna be my intro to talk to you guys. I was to say, are you guys feeling mad right now? Would you like to get happy? This is very complained that. I don't even know what that song was called. Um,...

...you know what I'm thinking of, the guy who uh lars or something like that. The happy song, I whatever Barkley was. Yeah, that one. I mean Narls Barkley, because I'm happy and all the clapping and all that stuff, because Farrell Williams. I'm sorry, that was really bad. Yes, now I have jeff singing it. Now I'm like a resident. Well, of course we're happy. We're getting closer to the season. Do we want well Christensen on this list? Yes, okay, I feel like every time we pull a player up for there in their history there's an a R C on their Jersey's I'm pretty sure Christiansen played online with a j bellow. I believe you are correct and that that top line was almost like apple cores line this past season with Calinann Weber and Kobe Walters, where it was like okay, you know, just shut down that top line and you're good. But nobody could shut down that top line because they were just that dominant. Now that we added two players, Anthony, can I tell the story now? Of course Brittany will be happy that she's being mentioned, because girl. So I want to get to graylands. I think I want to includ him on this list. to Um, but what season are we even talking about here? What? What season did great play? Two season, yes, and and it was the nine twenty season where they actually finished there playoffs series, but we didn't finish the playoffs. So in that nineteen Twenti season, Jeff, you mentioned this earlier, one of the better years in recent history for the rough riders. They came to face the express or something like that, and we were getting close to the time myself, Jeff and Brittany were gonna make our way too early frozen finals predictions, and at that time Brittany was the only one of the three of us that I believe was gonna put the rough riders in the frozen finals. And Yeah, she had this incredible ability to not keep secrets. Um and just blurt stuff out. And she just screaming in Rodman at Eric Lynde about how I don't believe in his team and I think they stink, and I'm like, Brittany, first off, the MIC is probably on for hockey TV right now and she's yelling Neil doesn't think you're going to go to the frozen finals, but I know you're going to, and I'm like, Oh my God, like like you need not expose me like this before we even get to the episode of the PODCAST. But the best part about it was her her picks changed as that year went on. Did you remember this? Jeff? She had the rough rides for the longest time and then she just picked against him. And when we actually got some time to actually make the picks, and it got to the point where gray owens was like, you know what, you want to pick against us, I'm gonna tag you in my posts. That says rid or die playoffs and the location is Providence, Rhode Island. Now the whole thing didn't totally work out for grey because crazy how far this story is now going. Um, by the way, my lovely wife Vicky told me that I'm very bad at telling stories. Of the weekend. That's a whole another episode. But the rough riders. That was the playoff series that they actually went up one game to none against the junior flyers and then the junior flyers when the next two games they actually were playing for Jerry Domas, who wasn't there because his son had just passed away. Remember that their variants in spired...

Um that playoff series. But I always just found it so far. I remember the moment that gray made this post because Britney texted me right away and said look what great just did. He tag me in the post the locations providence and then she said let's see if you proved me wrong. And obviously they didn't prove it wrong, but it was. Gray was an awesome player to see progress over the course of his time Um with the with the rough riders obviously came in part way through that eighteen nineteen season Um and then just nearly double, more than double his point production in the nineteen twenties season. So he came in from Canada. CL is he Canadian Gray Owens, Connecticut he played. He played high school there in Connecticut, Brunswick, Brunswick High School, and then played the old farms, one of the a powerhouse prep school. So let's do this. Let's put Gray Owens right here. For now he's not even getting other list. I don't know because we out we had eight guys. I told you. I have to include Nick Jermaine right like I want to add Isakas the eleven. Oh, true, that's true. We didn't get him on the all time team. Do we sneak him into the top ten, ten year anniversary team? But Colin Kane Brett Backman, you weren't lying when you said this is gonna be harder. Actually didn't even throw a bone paint on there yet either. I think this one's harder than we expected it to be at first. But again, another team with with with the history that they have. Like there's another name that I have to find too, that went on to fit play at Colgate, and now I am blanking on the name, but I'm gonna find it. M Hm Lucas, back to stay from this past year's team. Went over a hundred games. He put a hundred of two games with them. Six points. Now heading off, heading off to Newton College. My computer is like elight prospects does not work. Yeah, I have to look at the Lee prospects on my phone now. Literally, you look at a Lee process fix on a zoom on your computer it's like whoa system system. I'M gonna talked to Brent Hart Pretty Hard, the biggest EP fan was, so we're gonna figure out how that had to do both. I mentioned Todd Jackson earlier. Nick who curis? Remember? He had a lethal shot. Um. Tommy Schwartz, another guy that went on to play at St as. I mentioned Mitchell Parsons earlier. NYLO, I remember him to great name, Swedish Kid Games. See, I thought he played forward. To see a flex is see, one of those guys that got moved up kind of like Beler did this year. Jeff. We had Joe Windmar on our list are all time team because he played thirteen, fourteen m for them at forty nine points. Went on to play in the U S H ll and then U Mass Amherst and then now is in the e h l. he's in a long time pro guy c h l spar now I remember I mentioned Ludwig Steenberg earlier and the sky makes me feel old. UH, he was back in that fourteen fifteen team. Fifty two points, four years of plumber state, now playing pro over in Sweden. There was another name on our all time team, that Cam Cundy. Do you remember county l like when? So he was one of the originals. Yeah, he had three five points seventy nine games a defenseman plumb state. After he left. I mean, if you want to...

...go present, keep an eye on Kieran Chung this year, right. I mean how good was he for them last year as an Oh four? I always forget how young he is as an oh four first year of junior is here in the states. Thirty five points in thirty nine games. So we have a lot of options here, guys. MM HMM. They're to go. The name that I hadn't said yet, that I was trying to say at some point, was Paul mcavoy, not Charlie mcavoy. Played for the oilers fourteen, fifteen, then when played two seasons in the B C H L as a captain, five years at Colgate. Yeah, at first I thought that was six and I was like, I was like Um, and then now playing pro in the E C H l. So we have plenty of options here. I know Anthony wants to go with East Juca, though, right Anthony. M Hmm, I mean it's it's tough. I definitely put him up there all right, to recap his points. If we're doing it's hard to because, like when it comes to do we go with guys that were there for multiple years or do we go with those guys that we're there for that quick year but we're so impactful in that quick year because, like looking up Colin Caine right now, seventy four points in four year, games in seventeen eighteen. I forgot he was that dynamic. Twenty seven goals, forty seven assists. That might be end. Like you said, Neil, he's over at lake floor, Lake Forest now, playing in college. Yep, do does this help at all? Cousin, we all know that. rety. Love that too as a blackhawks fan. With, I mean I know with issues Zuka. You know he skewed a bit on the shorter side, but he he was a dynamic skater. He skated like the wind and, you know, had the hands to back it up. And I also remember he I'm pretty sure he played in that game in Curry College. Yes, he plays at curry now. Yeah, the All star classic where he was going up against column. I like Isha Zuka, like Caine. Uh, you know what? I totally forgot about. Two with Brett Backman, who I mentioned earlier. Um, a single year with the with the oilers. Sixteen, Seventeen, forty points, four years of Puma state. My registration system says he's coming back to coach this year as an assistant. Right. Look at some of those relatives. Does he wally Backman's like nephew? Crazy? Look look at the brothers in law. First, John Jonathan Quick, talking about an awesome family. Right. Wow, his dad was, or is, I should say, Mike Backman, who we were wally back with, a baseball guy through the basis, like all over the place. He was on sports seven years ago. I don't remember him like a full nutty. I think it was wally back like the but is uncle. His Dad played a little bit at a few games. Here go seven games in the NHL. His brother little pro career that took him over into Europe. What do we have for brothers in law? Chris Molson, Matt Wilson, Jonathan Quick. Do you know who Shannon Wilson is? She played for a while as well in the C W H L, captain at Niagara. I say strong family's tree of hockey. She's like P W HP A two.

Yeah, yeah, seriously, do we earn ourselves Brownie points before we see him at that at the showcase? Like Dude. So tell us all about Maddie Bilson and Jake quick. Huh? All right, I have to put Nick Germain on this list. I'm sorry, it's as more than more to do than Jees Quinnipiac, but let me pull off his stats so we can all see. He did only play a single sor a little bit more than a single season. Um came in at the end of the thirteen fourteen season. Same School. That actually gray. I want to play at the Brunswick School. Um a full year in fourteen fifteen. Thirty six points, tragular season, thirteen, postseason. Jeff, you love it. A hundred and thirty pins. Not An Alex Wilkinson Guy. Um went on to play in the BC HL for a year, four years at Quinnipiac, was a captain in there his senior year and now plays in my home state. So actually, double whammy. He's playing for the main mariners in the e C show so like this is Maine. I can't, I cannot. I cannot. I have to. We will allow it. Nick Jermaine, I can shut up now. You guys can pick the last guy. I like what Anthony said about Tower Suzuka, but and then Ray Owen's this is tough. I like both of them and I like Colin Kane too. We don't even have him on. Like the auntod mentioned list, Todd Jackson, Jackson too, for a while. Paul mcavoy, Bona Payne called Steve Brown in real quick to Ma. We have them give us their their their first guy on the list and the last guy on the list. Did Ponta Paine make the Vermont Lumberjacks List? No, you're thinking about do we play him on Valley? I think we know. I think we ad about him, but when we said that if he was going to make a list, it would probably be rough riders since, AH, he was a captain there his last year, I believe. Look at that increase in production to that last year. Played with one of the Bellas, I think it was Colin. Fifty five points that last year. Now at Lake Forest. Wait, who's they thinking on a Lumberjackson? You just you got your vs confused. You Thought Valley in Vermont it's so good. There's been a million names that we've said this summer. Anthony. Yeah, do we want to go Bo to pain is Suzuka? Bratt Backman? Let's go Tu Mi Suzuka, going once, going twice, three point, sixty nine games, multiple years. Anthony already talked about in detail about why he was so good. Okay, we're a point per game player. Hey, will pim's got two, fourteen points. There are four teen PIMS. MHMM, don't think. What do you think? I gotta stick up for the shorter players. Man as a verticue challenge myself there. We got gotta stick up for the shorter players. Isha Suko was so great again. It's not gonna be a perfect list because we can only have ten total guys, but these ten this was this was hard, just like last week. This was a horrible list to put together. I'm going with this list. Don't you guys? Got With this list? Alex Wilkinson, Locker, Harris Colin, Bella, a, J Bella, Alex Rolela, Michael Tilford, mark, mark, happy, will Christensen, Nick Germaine...

...and Tao Eat Suzuka. I probably should have separated Bella Bella and Rowella's. There you go. If that was a line about Ella's, and then they can pray umbrella by Rihanna. Okay, you not me. Um, that's it for top tens. Wow, onto the season we go. Boys. You know how many rounds of golf you get in in the off season? Bud, sorry, we didn't get to play. Someone was a little packed, as you know. That's a little shy of your yeah, it's seriously around. Yes, I'm twenty shy of my usual a month off when we went to when we had a couple of weddings and went to Hawaii, that kind of threw me for a loop. Um, but I should have golfed in Hawaii. That's the issue. We can. There was one course to when, like the end of October, you're nut. You go up still like I'll go on if the course is open, I'll go out one in December. It's gonna be a knit hat. But the course that I wanted to play in Hawaii was was four dollars. So I was like because I course right and I was like four hundred bucks. Not, not not this trip, next trip, next trip. For sure, Um, but that does it, as I said, for our top ten. Uh Features our team in the week, features of the off season. Man, next week is the season preview. Jake Basil from hockey night in Boston will be joining us. I don't want to give away too much stuff next week. So the tease is that fantasy is back, but it's no longer one on one, on one on one, it's two on two. And there's and there's your your little tease to make you come back next week our season preview, which, of course we're recording and going to drop because in the season opener these rough riders are going to be playing against the chiefs, as Anthony would say, a nutmegs. I have to bring that up, yes, of course, but that will do it for our rough riders episode. Again, thank you to Eric Quinn and Stephen Brown for coming on the podcast this week. Thank you, jeff and Anthony for an awesome summer. Helped make it go by a little bit faster, and we'll talk to you guys next week with our three season preview. then. Thanks for listening to the show. Learn more at Eastern Hockey League Dot Org and follow us on Facebook, twitter, instagram, and Youtube. Also be sure to subscribe and it notified when next week's PODCAST is released. M M.

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