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EHL 10th Anniversary Team of the Week (Chiefs) | Episode 124

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On this week's episode of the #EShow, our Team of the Week features continue with the Connecticut Chiefs. Greg Heffernan is getting set for his 2nd year with the program, after helping to lead his team to within a goal of the 2022 EHL Frozen Finals. In the interview with Heffernan (1:12), the Head Coach and GM of the Chiefs reflects on what he learned the most in transitioning from NCAA to juniors. Further along (21:28), the #ECrew comes together to create the latest Top 10 player list of the off-season.

Welcome to the e show with Neil Rabbit. Founded in two thousand and thirteen, the EHL has become the college placement leader on the East Coast. Sit Back and learn more about the next step in your junior hockey career. Welcome to the east show, presented by the polly box foundation. The foundation's mission centers around their daily motto we take care of our own, as they help out all of those within the hockey community who may experienced a catastrophic event. Learn more at polly box foundation dot Org. What's up? My name is Neil Raven and this episode number one hundred and twenty four of the show. On this week's episode, our team of the week features continue with the Connecticut chiefs. Greg Heffernan is getting set for his second year with the program after helping to lead his team too, within a goal of the two thousand and twenty two ehl frozen findels. In the interview with Haffernan, the head coach and GM of the chiefs, reflects on what he learned the most and transitioning from NCAA to juniors for their law on the e Cou comes together to create the latest top ten player list of the offseason, joined now by Greg Haffern and the head coach and gm of the kinecticat chiefs. Has It going? Greg's going great. Thanks for having me on. Neil, thanks for coming back on. I think around this time this past year I had you on for the first time, introducing you as the new head coach of the chiefs. Now, with a year under your belt, when you look back on that two thousand one hundred and twenty two campaign, one of the first thoughts that come to mind a lot of fun. And I don't know if it's because it was a new experience or because we were just coming off of a bad covid experience or if it was because working with guys in a different capacity, but one of the most fun years I've had in ball with hockey as a player and coach, who was really, really great. When you look back on the season and you move from college to Junior, was there an adjustment period or or how did the first few weeks play out for you? Oh, yeah, yeah, so, of course right. So the first few weeks we took our lumps a little bit and and I think a lot of that was because we elected to go a little bit younger and really go with some guys that we thought we could develop early and turn into a team that we got down the stretch, which I think really did work out for us. But you know, I think early on adjusting to starting earlier, adjusting to more games more often and really focusing in on less time to get prepared from a team standpoint and from a system standpoint than in the college game. I think, you know, let's put it this way, there's a few things that will just for this season coming up here that I think move a little bit more in line to the junior schedule than the college schedule. But all in all, you know what, I think it was a really valuable experience and I think it actually helped us to take our lumps early last year and helped us down the stretch to realize it's not going to be easy. So, you know, all in all, you know what great experience and a lot of learning things. When you're when you're Ner Twenty Year of coaching, when you can always pick up things that you're learning, it's a lot of fun. So I want to get to that. You know, stretched run. Let's of course, and it maybe being you can call it a goal away from reason the finals. But prior to that you mentioned taking your lawns early on and then getting better as a season progressed. was there a specific turning point in the season when you felt like, all right, we got our feet wet, now we've turned the corner and now we're heading in the right direction. Well, I scheduled a little bit, you know,...

I maybe a little overheavy of road games. Really think we had to game two home games before November first. I don't have the schedule in front of me. I think it was something like that and I did that by design. I didn't think it was going to be as hard as it was to win on the road until you finish the season in your thirteen, five and two at home, right. So I think it's like I think you know, going back, I probably would have mixed in a few more home games like we've done for next year's schedule early on, but I think you know, when we finally got really through the through the second showcase, I think we got to a point where it was like hey, it's it's going to be okay, we're going to we're going to get there and guys are starting to figure so yeah, I think I think the second showcase was a pivotal point for us, and we also got a couple of guys back from the injury at Thanksgiving, which really kind of helped out. So there's no secret there that when you when you acquire some better players, that it makes things go better. I'm glad that you brought that up because I didn't even realize this. Do you played three games in your building prior to to the start of December. December second you was your fourth home game and then obviously had a few more after that and then you had the showcase that was in your building December fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, where you won all three games. Of course you had one game right afterwards, but did it almost feel like the holiday break was coming at the worst possible time for your team? Know, you know what. Everybody loves Christmas like. You know what? I'll tell you what. It is funny. I was I was I was thinking about this and I was talking with some of the people in our organization and and the Monday game I think we played against Walpole might have been the worst hockey game for both team and that those are two pretty good hockey clubs. At that point of the year and that game was like watching paint dry. And and Josh and I actually joked about it afterwards. Like off the boys checked right out after that showcase. So we needed the break. And I know we were on a really hot streak at that point right there, where I think we had won seven of nine or something like that. But ultimately the guys were tired, they were ready to go home and see their families and and you don't want just recharging the batteries, whether it's you know, you don't want when your play, when you're hot. You don't like breaking. But we needed it. We were beat off. We needed the break. So you know, it came at the right time, even though people might think that you might have wanted to keep playing. Yeah, makes sense. And then, as the rest of the year progresses, you finished second in your division, which gave you a matchup with the rough riders. You Get through that playoff series, you bring the railers all the way to game three of that series, which puts you in the wild card game against the eighty sevens. You force into overtime. As in I said before, you were really one balanced, one goal away from the frozen follows. Do you look at it the same exact way. I think the teams that deserve to be their deserved to be their nail. Like we, we Marshall Play Great. When Yostie had to go in, he was great and at the end of the day, you know what, we made a couple of mistakes with two minutes left in the game against the eighty seven's that cost us the bid and and you know what, I was really proud of our guys in the way it goes. But you know what, you know the eighty seven they were really solid hockey club. I think they might have even tied or beat the League record consecutive wins. They deserve to be there. You Know Worcester. I mean would have been nice to knock off Worcester, but you don't watch. Shaun did such a great job with that and coach a death. So that's a great job with that program. You know, at the end of the day we got to the third game and we felt like they...

...were doing such a good job defensively against us that in the third period. The only regret I have in the third period is not stay in the course. We try to be elected to do a couple of things differently and we had a few posts early in the third period, but they came back and because we were a little bit over aggressive, we kind of open the floodgates for them and ultimately the right two teams made it there. But you know what it was. It was great for us in my first year to to almost be able to get there, but sometimes in life getting up the ladder too quickly isn't necessarily a good thing. I think it was good, especially for our returning guys that are going to be good hockey players for us this year and good college players next year. Those guys, they're going to understand that it's not easy and it shouldn't be easy and and I think sometimes getting the wind knocked out here there like the New Jersey Game, where you get scored up, we're up to one with two minutes to go in the game and you give up a late goal in the third and then you get beaten over time. You know it's tough to swallow, but at the end of the day, sometimes those experiences they are going to help our guys in the future and help the future generation of players that are coming through our organization understand what it takes to get there and understand that it's not as easy as a we're just going to climb the ladder in one year. Yeah, so you can say the use that a great bar in your first year with the program and as the season comes to and I'm sure you took a few weeks to decompress and then turn the page to this upcoming year and I want to get to some of those returners but the same time also talk about players that could have returned but are going to make the jump to college right now. Jack Divine being one of those players when he had the chance to commit as opposed to coming back for another season. Was that tough for you, or wasn't the easy? No, no, not at all. I actually I helped them pack his bags. Like, the deal is, it's it's fairly it's fairly simple Jack to bind the hell of a player he really is. And would it have benefited us to have him back? Of course, I mean he probably would add seventy points, you know, but at the end of the day we're trying to help our guys move on and I'm not doing right by my players to hold them back when they could go and get a great experience. He got to the school that he wanted to be at and in a great environment at Saint a's, and you know what, he's going to do good things there and at the end of the day, that's what the job is right. So for me it's advancement of players and the more guys like Jack Divine that we help move on on the timeline, that's their timeline, not mine, the more better players we commit to and it becomes one of those things where you know, coach Sorella has done a tremendous job at the avalanche and it's just a it comes a machine when you're able to just advanced players and then go and get the next crop of best players and then advance those players. And you know, ultimately that's what we want to do, and so holding guys back that are ready to play college is not anything that we haven't Jack divining our lineup next year would have been would have been pretty exciting. Yeah, for sure, it's a great way. It's a great way of looking at it. So then we'll go to a player that is returning and the first one that you announced as returning in Adam Yo's too, as you mentioned before, had to step in to be the starter in that wild card game against the e sevens. was that an audition for him? No, so, you know what, we knew he was going to be like. He was. He's a three year guy, right. He's a he's a college player all day long. Now he's a guy you know that we felt like could have been a starter. But Marshall mccallup was playing out of his mind. So it's a good problem to have. And you know what, he's such a good team guy that you know, and I don't know I'm paraphrasing a little bit, but he was upset because he couldn't get because he couldn't top fifty four shots instead of fifty three against the eighty...

...seven right. So true competitor and a guy you know that we're very excited about in the future. And Yeah, and I'm excited for his journey. I think he's going to have a lot of options. I mean he was good at East Coast. We knew he was going to be good. A matter of fact, the only time he struggled is when I had to put them in mid game and and you know that's not a good situation for anybody. So other than that, every time that he actually started a game. We knew he was going to compete well and he was going to have a good outing and I think his numbers are reflective of that. So, you know, we're excited about him in the future and we think that, you know, he's going to give us a chance to win every night and every night he's in the net and we're excited about it. So for sure, and that was the first guy that you announced to was with your ehl team this past season. How extra beneficial has it also been for you to then look at your EHLP team and and see some massive defensemen in the likes of Tate Sod and all of our Hurtsburg who you have the chance to bring up, along the lines of jared Martin, who've already announced as well, to be able to dip into that ehl P pool right in your own building? How huge has that been for you as well? So what's so? What's not known, is that we've already signed our top line and our top deepair from our P team. You did allude to the two defensemen, but ultimately having those those guys in our in our building and having those guys all get man games up. Really I look at them as quasi veteran guys. Even though they didn't play the full season, they had an opportunity to practice and awful lot in an opportunity to get some man games up. I think Kate Sodden had a goal for us in the AHL early in the season back and so so we look at that as as returning guys with some experience right so they're going to be a little bit and of some of the other guys that haven't played in the AHL before. So it's a tremendous advantage and it's also something that we want to continue to do year after year. We need to have four to six guys that develop every single year that are able to come right through the organization and work their way up and then on to college. So you mentioned the to d. it's always nice when the two guys you get to developer both six foot four, certainly not going to hurt the penalty kill with those big long sticks, and you know we're excited. We're excited about those guys there, you know. So yeah, do you credit part of the building of what you guys have done to the fact that when you walk in the new into an arena, that section of the building is all years and the locker rooms artected. Does it feel like you're kind of building a family? Regardless of if the players on the EHL or the EHLP team, everyone's a part of this full chiefs organization. Well, and I'll tell you what, having the luxury of a full time equipment manager in Bob the Lascio, he keeps everything organized. But our P room and our e room are connected and the fact that we have all of that right there, along with our midget AAA program you're a hundred percent right. It's almost an academy model where that's our that's our building, that's where we are and that's our home. And we start first thing in the morning and then we go from ehl practice to video to workouts, to midget practice, the video to workouts, the hlp practice and and it really does create an environment where when guys are up and down and anywhere in the organization. I say this to a lot of recruits. We're a fifty man roster. We're not A to twenty five man teams, right. So you know we have guys and and if a guy from the ehl who's in the Ahl Stars pumped up and bruised and wants to practice with our EHLP team, he goes and practices with them, and so it creates an environment where all the guys know each other and we...

...do some skills sessions where it's everybody that's available to skate at certain times, depending on what their school schedule is. They come and skate and it doesn't matter which team you're on. You're on, you're in our organization, you're on our team. It's one Lockero, you know. So yeah, it's a fantastic set up and we're less to have it. That's awesome, and you kind of got to this a little bit earlier, but as the offseason has progress and you've turned the page from your first year and the lessons that you learned in your first year to year to what were the first things that you identified, maybe even with the scheduling that you said, this is what I'm going to do differently in the second season. All. Number One. Now, when I took over last June, the the covers were bear right, and understandably so, but any successful program has been doing their recruiting during the season. So right now we're in a situation where we're we have a lot more options than we did in June of last year and that was number one priority, was to make sure that we're building our team throughout the season so that when we get to the summer months we're adding pieces of the puzzle, not trying to figure out what the puzzle looks like. And then the other thing was is that when you have the opportunity to go out and create a schedule that makes a little bit more sense and now you know the landscape of the travel and such, and I think you know one of the things. I think we open with the first game of the EHL season and I had to actually go to you and Neil and get it to do that, but it's right down the road with the Connecticut rough riders and it just made a lot of sense from a travel perspective, especially with the showcase dates moving and now that we're under self governance, which is a fantastic thing for the league. You know, it makes it makes it. It made a lot of sense to kind of build the schedule in a little bit different way given the experiences that I had last year. You know, and I think like anything, you know when you're going through it the first time, you're in a situation where you're looking for ways to improve, but you're also just trying to survihipe the junior hockey season and a lot of in a lot of senses. So, you know, between the recruiting and the scheduling and and the fact that you know there's there's some other ways to, you know, provide some experiential things for guys and and tweak the way that we want to form practice and shape our team development and our individual skill development. You know, help our guys with maybe some initial visits to college in the summer time. I think all those things are things that we may not have had a great opportunity to do last year because I was new, but we can really, you know, do a better job of that this year. Yeah, and for a last question regarding this year. I'm not sure if you have specific goals set, but to have seven kids commit this past season plus, as we've mentioned a few times, make the stretch run the playoff fund that you did, is it as simple as setting the bar above that for this upcoming season? Define success or for you, what will define success in your second year? Yeah, no, as far as setting the bar bar for success. You know, here's the thing, like everybody else, that you define a successful season with a championship program right that, batten, every single player on your team commits the college, right and and well, we know that that only you know. Only one team gets to walk away with hardware and and it's next to impossible that every single kid is going to commit in one given season. You know, I think we will have the over the summer maybe one or two more commits to get our number up to, you know, nine or ten guys that'll end up committing to NCAA before September rolls around.

Any other things to us is just on a side note, like it's it's a testament to the league and what you're doing here, Neil, with with the league and the commitments, because this portal, with with the covid year and the extra year the kids can play, it's been a challenge for some of these guys, that the old ones and all and O two's and and the testament to you in the League of being able to promote guys and get guys placed into college and in use the shield, so to speak. Nothing but great things. But back on track there, I think for benchmarks. Like you know, we always we want to just continue to improve every day all right. So, whatever those goals are, just get better every single day and we hope that, you know, we hope that we're getting a little bit better and and and are able to you know, we finished in second. I love to finish in first. It would be fantastic. You know, we we lost in the in the divisional championship. I'd love to win that one time. You know, it's it's, you know, incremental goals and you know, understanding to though, that every time that we get an opportunity to move with get on to college, I'd sacrifice wins the whole day long to do that. So, even though most of them are go hand in hand right. So well, that's what it's all about and I appreciate the the kind words and I also appreciate coming back on the podcast for the second time. So I hope that you get a chance to enjoy a little bit of the offseason while finishing up the recruiting and will talk to you soon. Thanks again to Greg Haffernan for coming on the podcast this week getting our team of the week top ten features back going again. Let's bring in this week's he crew. Jeff Anthony. I promised you would only be two weeks and it was only two weeks this time. A little boys. Good to see you both in a while. I know I'm not sharing the video, but I think I do look Tenner that I was before. Okay, thank you. I was trying not to read to yes, yes, I said a little read. Spent enough time in the Sun while in Hawaii and I spent enough time on an airplane. So just getting some walking on a golf course the U. Yes, Oh my God, dude, so steps there, but uh, yeah, a few steps, thirtyzero steps later, eight thousand of exactly. Yeah, so makes up for I think I spent a total of eighteen hours on an airplane combined, because we did. We flew direct from Boston to Honolulu. So up. But Hey, for anyone that's going to go to Hawaii, do it, because if you could find a way to sleep for like two threehour segments, half the flights already over, then this watch a movie. All right. So, and you're there. But let's get into the chiefs now. We've got a bounced around so far this offseason with teams that have a deep history so far, some teams that have a very short history so far in the league and then you get kind of in the middle a team that is heading into their fifth year and I think what you can say about the chiefs is it feels like every season they take one more step forward from the previous year. Do you guys feel that same way? Yeah, I wouldn't. I think coach effern, we just spoke of joined us for the interview. Thanks, coacheff. I think him and Trent Samuels Thomas are a good coaching staff. They both have good hockey minds. We all talk to them with the showcases and I feel like that's kind of what stabilize this team is having those guys come in on. They've been able to succeed from there. They both have been able to recruit some good guys. Mean we saw last year with Jack the vine and Justin harshaw, Marshall mccallup, all guys were part of our different allstar features and guys that produced and guys are going to college now. So we always talked about what the AHL's about is about advancement, and all those guys advanced the the proper way. So yeah, I think. I mean it starts...

...obviously Brandon Johnson, the owner, to the ownership has a big part to do with it, but I think coacheff and coach Sanuels Thomas or are the driving forces behind the chiefs. Yeah, and I think with the chiefs to looking at their on ice play, because I got to see them quite a bit for the ehl and EHLP. They have some players who are super talented and they also play a style where it's just a very physical brand of hockey where they throw the body around, they block shots, they kind of do it all and I think that just spoils down to good coaching, good staff to help them out, and they were one game away from reaching the frozen finals this year. I know they went up in the wild card game against the eighty seven's. It went right down to the wire. They didn't even have mccaliping goal a game. They had Adam Yost and he was nothing short of brilliant. And I'd actually spoke with spoken with Adam Hooley about that wildcard game last week and we talked about this one glove save that yost made and I said, did that remind you of the one for the Wolkes Barre Scranton nights with Walker making that save on Tarantino? And he started laughing. He's like yeah, you know, I thought about that a little bit, but fortunately they were able to get over the hump. But I mean Yost was so great that game and the first player that they announced this coming back right, I think I could say that was an audition of sorts. You pass the audition. There were some episode that we talked about the fact that that was like an audition. I get, like a test, of course, and they were. And they says one game what their one bounce away, right, like we've talked about it at numerous cases on this podcast, like what if they get the bounce in overtime and and up north the Rangers get the bounce over the wolves and overtime we're looking at totally different frozen finals and the whole thing may play out totally differently because of that. Right. So I don't know if Yost is part of this top ten. Maybe after next season we'll see what he does in a full year with the program. But to just dig into some of the top names that we could talk about here, because there are going to be a few interesting situations that we've discussed before where you get a player like Kya Suda, who was on the eighty sevens, but also played for the chiefs for a season. So I think we'll start, though, at the very top with I think I don't think we've missed the leading score for any team so far. I think we always have to include the leading score. Zach WHTHINGTON was the captain of the chiefs. They're very first year. For those that don't know this, the chiefs were a purchase, sale and relocation in Connecticut. They were the cantiquette oilers the year before. So in two thousand and seventeen eighteen, that's when the original oilers, the team that's been in Norwalk for the entirety of the League, change the name to the rough riders. That's still there, narrow, Eric Lynd and Stephen Brown, but that oiler's name went to Hamden Connecticut, which in Hampden is Quinnipiac, where I went to school. It's gotta Plug in real fast. The oilers, suckets, the boilers, had a season there in Hamden and then sold to the chiefs who at the time had just at a youth program wanted to add juniors. So that first chief season was that eighteen nineteen year and Zach Wovington was the captain that season. He put out fifty six points and forty games and when it comes to being a first year team you need leaders just to help get you started. And obviously they were not the best team in the league. It's hard to win as an inaugural franchise, but he was a true leader for that team. And Yeah,...

I mean he he's listed as the all time score here because he got a cat. kind of have to combine the oilers and chiefs numbers together. But what he did in those two years in the HL, ninety one points. Like we'd be remissed to not include him as part of the top ten. So we'll start there, without a doubt. With Wellington. Yeah, I mean, like you said, to know the thing with some of these teams, I would changes, I mean goalie's. It's it's hard. We've had a real hard time being able to put the goalies unless it's a organization like we're going to do the Rangers at one point and they've had a Bushel of goalie. So sometimes are different others. But, like Anthony was just saying, these guys playing more grinding style. So like Whittington's was probably one of the best. You know, pure goal scorers that they've had, besides guys like hardshaw divine that haven't been they weren't there for very long. They were there for individuals seasons. Were willing to WHO's there for a couple of years. So I mean these guys are going to have those eye popping statistics like some of these other high octane offenses, like we've done before. But Oh, also, I can't believe I named off all those good chiefs from this past season. I forgot to say the captain, our biggest fan of the show, Dominic Chaerco. Whoops, show we held back to that. You're listening. Should we go back to back that kids? I think Tom Mass absolutely has to be on here. That kids was a heck of a player and just a great personality to even did some broadcasting at one point. I remember he called a couple of games and a pensions here the chiefs and we're talking about that. But another kid that he's going to Suoni Brockport, if I remember correctly. So yeah, we get to play against some of this fall captain. Yeah, we try to pay Hil guys through the boards instead of the opposite. He was trying to put the college guys to the glass. Now he's like Hey, welcome. I can say one thing. He's got a heck of a shot from the Blue Line. Chericho, he scored the overtime winner in one of the boss Engineer Rangers at the showcase and I was doing ringside reporting for the lass regular season game for the S S Ahl team and if I remember correctly, Chericho also scored a goal from I want to say like just above the top of the circles there's a laser beam. Yeah, he it was the old fashioned like we have to call it at the the backscratchers. I remember, stick to the ceiling. I think I called it dam actually fair remember correctly too. And Yeah, then he's just a good mix to right for captain. He has that good personality. Will always be sliding Y, always yes, very vocal what like. He has that good split up. He was very serious, but he was also very lucky. Tried to keep guys, making sure everybody was having fun. But new one flipping on, flip it off. When to be the serious captain went to be, you know, a little more lively and put the life into the room. So yeah, he was we're going to miss him in the HL next year but, as you said, and he will see him in the college series against Brockport. So dog babies are gonnas with a tonic. Guys, I feel like we got ten guys going now. I'm trying to find the video when you on the call for that overtime winner. I think you were a jeff. I think I was, because that was on the far end of the building, an exeter. Yeah, we have to sound on the Ledge sometimes. Yope, it's not. It's not a terrible spot. Right. No, no, no, it's not terrible spot. You may do with what you have to do at that when you have to sometimes. Right, so we will. We love our rinks for all their little quirks. But with that overtime winner, I was actually watching it in the corner. Have you guys seen this? Oh, look at that Carolssky Savor right there. So I don't know if you've seen here he is. So here's the overtime winner, right. Yeah, look behind the glass. Oh No, I don't. Maybe trevor cut me out of this one. So yes, that differ version. Trevor found a way to zoom in a little bit. I am right here. When he lets the shock go,...

...my jaw kind of dropped a little bit and then I was like, Oh, I'm probably on camera. I should get out of here, so high like turn and walk from you, going, Oh my God, yeah, actually actually turn it. You see me there? They actually hit it. Be Out of this one. So I realize that I made a face, so I turn and walk away and and rich pulled me aside afterwards. I was like, I know it was a good shop, but you got to hold your reaction and I was like, I didn't even do anything. That's all I got us bang on the glass. I just made a small face like I was like what a goal like? It's tough not to react like that. Right. It was an overtime winner and they went nuts. Yep, up there really a walker goes me walk away the right behind the code. We are hockey fans first and foremost. All right, if it was someone on the Rangers, to feel someone on the chiefs doesn't matter. A good place, a good play and that will fix them. Order fits the bill. So I don't think you're on the wrong at all there, and you'll, let's be honest, stay I'll steady at man, I totally agree. I apres it is what we all call games and that's what happens. Like if we weren't it, if we were not, like if you did not get excited, would people town into our mother like Oh yeah, another goal, Nice, Neil. If you were talking like one of the players going that gross, that, then you know, maybe, maybe that would be cause for concern. But yes, fair, fair, point's about. Listen, with stale product. Yeah, I love Salteas, but I get made feel fun of for like the SALTIES, because we're not salteas. Yes, so we got two captains so far. We Got Zach WITHHINGTON and Dominic Chericho, one from the first year of the chiefs and one from the most recent year of the chief so that's two of the eight. You know what I haven't done so far to make our lives even easier, as Paul up last year's all time team. I haven't done that for you guys, because we haven't done this mix to the match. Haven't done this in two weeks. That's why we're gonna back on the bike. So I actually remember now the first name that we put on this. I was just going to say his name to man, you want a beer alone? Maybe at some point during this season we come up with an all beer toughest team and EHL history, like just like willing to block a shot with your face team, right, like Maxville I was would block and shot with his face if he had to win a hockey game. Yep, like he was tough as stones. Two seasons with the cheese put up fifty six points. Another cow. Maybe that's the trend here. We got to just stick with captain's the whole time, right. But he had thirty points this first year, twenty six second year. A kid from from Minnesota. I think we'd be really wrong. Deer Creek High. Yeah, I don't know where that is a Minnesota, but it's awesome name. I keep saying it. Look at his beard. Just check out his beard's amazing points in ninety seven games. His high school sets are just insane and an extempt run through a brick wall, as Jeff keeps saying. Look at his beard. Yes, we're gonna doing all beerd team, all all beard toughness, will in the boxet shot with your face team. Maxwell. Captain Is Dad just always was a big full of oars on social media to he was a huge fan of the podcast. You're right, I think we got a message their jompile every episode, including only this episode. Yeah, so that's three so far. Too forwards in a in a D let's make a three forwards, because I think it's kind of disappointing but also exciting for this kid. I wish I divine could come back. Right. He's only in our two like he could come back for one more year, but he's going off the stay as this fall. In that one season in the league he had fifty one points in the regular season. To put up six more points in the postseason, he was legit. I'd like. I would selfishly is pretty filthy. So officuely I like friend to come...

...back because he'd probably be a part of our team against Jericho and Brockport in the falls. Only nineteen, your hundred and nineteen, right. I mean he's smart. I like to see a younger kid go to college too, because, like that's the usue with some of these guys. Who is they're getting out of college now. They're like tw Thousand Eight, hundred and twenty nine. We're on a college exactmination. Here's my favorite kids down called it's like he's my favorite divine moment this season I was on the the bus ride back from the wooster showcase because I travel with the even's and I was watching the chiefs play on hockey TV and it goes into a shootout and divine pulls the debt sup m where he makes the shot. He's a lefthanded shot, so he cuts to his right, stays on his forehand, so it just kind of drags it back. He has a wide open net to shoot at and I'm just staring at my phone mouth. They gave Neil thought. He had a big reaction. I was just look at my phone screen like, oh my goodness, he really pulled that off in a shootout. Yes, we have cherish video that somewhere. I will be able to find that one as fast as the other one. I liked. I picked it for fantasy and good I picked him at least twice. I remember too, he was he was a great goals for and a huge help for us in providence because I'm not sure if you guys are yes, he worked on below. He's ryould kid. He didn't in and work, he just stopped by quickly because we were running out a pucks and they went and got more plus for us. I remember. I can ordio goes that Jack to find they'll kind of looks like it goes yeah, it's should be scratch. He's like from doubs. I was like, Oh oh, I thought I'd recognized it. He was given us all some head nods and stuff. Most like. If it also, if we're going to be talking about players helping for the ehl frozen finals, I think we do have to give another shout out to Owen Johnson, who is basically Bob de Lassie, Bob De lessio's righthand man's yes, and Chris Russo and I actually were hanging out with Johnson in the the hotel after we had got out to eat before the the first couple of games, and just a great kid. And like we've had a couple of players also like with the seven S, or they help out either the camera, the the score board, where you can tell how much these players love the game, where even if they're not playing, they just want to be around it. So for him to help out the entire frozen finals, you know those twelve, thirteen hour days helping out the lessio. I mean Kudos to Johnson and like those. Those are always great to see those players helping out. Yeah, BOB is the only couldn't manager in the League. I do believe. So Bob could even make this chiefs list. Bob, is that epic and everybody's if we get if we get Hardt, if we get stuck at number nine, maybe, maybe, I'm sure. I'm sure he's just what he's hoping right now. But they were actually mentioned. Yeah, Bob and lwen right, it would totally be fine with that. Yeah, they were a huge part of helping pull off the finals, whether they did so. You Got Greg and Trent, coach in the EHL team, Jeremy Garhart is coach The p team, Bob, Alwen, Brandon I corvo, a former former NHL player who's a huge asset of the chiefs as well. They have a full full staff. They're so it's been great to see and it's help them bring in players like divine right and and just to close the story, before we ran had a pox because when you have all the logo plucks at the finals, the second these went into the crowd we never got them back because the you did too nice with job on them. They're like like they I honestly think I saw too many people just say, Oh, it has a logo pocket. Yeah, so it was actually OJ. I think you said like hey, we need punks, and Jack is like around the corner, like he'll go get them for us. And Yeah, without him we probably didn't have on a plus for the entire rest of the files. All...

...right, so that is four guys so far. Where do we go next? Anny goalie's I think mccalub might be their most games played. I think there's two Goalis to have. Actually, this nob always that we should talk about here. So I don't think disc always going to make the list, but I want to talk about him first because Gabe could shuer was on the original chiefs team and I touched on a little bit earlier how hard it is to come in as an inaugural inaugural franchise right and and get your feet wet up at the same time being competitive, and I remember there was a game against the ABS the chiefs lost like three to one, and he had like sixty two saves and I was like yeah, maybe that's exaggerated a little bit, maybe not, I don't know, I'll check instead afterwards. which is the company ever using at the time for the computer analytics? And Yeah, it was spot on. He had sixty two saves. Chris or els like I'm trading for that kid. I was like, I don't know they're going to trade him to you, but like yes, he is day have good like. He was a part of that original Connecticut chiefs team, ended up at Branath and the D three program. That no longer exists. So now he's at US m, university of Southern Maine. I don't know if he makes this list, but he was a great like foundational piece so the goalie position for them, leading to what they eventually brought in. I mean I think JP Mela and Marshall mccallup are both on this list. Jp Mel Ots want to talk fantasy, Jeff JP MELA was one of the big one fantasy that well year at one fantasy. He was a stud for the chiefs. He's probably one of the best schoolways we've had in the league with stuff to stay. We look at the numbers, but then look at the numbers at Trinity is past year, Eleven Games with the one hundred and forty eight and a nine four four. I know it's I know it's trinity and and and they are really good program but like he's that good. Also, I would put both JP Mella and Marshall mccallup on this list. Mccalp originally a worcester railer. People forget that. Oh I was saying. I definitely forgot that. Look at Nola to Matt Mella played with the Gunnery and Shattock Statet Mary's two other massive programs leading up to that. Oh, the Flynn flon bombers. I love to talk to him about that. WHO The heck? And the SJHL, one of the best team names out there, right, bombers. But but from ACCALLOP. He was playing P for the railers. Wanted the chance to get a few ehl games and done the stretch of that nineteen twenty season. One of our what are what our teams do so well? They have guys get a chance to maximize their exposure. A short, brief end of the season stint with the chiefs in one thousand nine hundred and twenty led to him going back to the chiefs in two thousand and twenty one, being the starting goalie this past year and I want to say the top goalie from our Allstar classic for the red team. That's right. Almost willed them to a victory over Jeff's blue team. MMM, couldn't get over my man Jack Posture is a little good. It's very good. WHO's my other goalie? Like I had Adams from the SPARTANS. Yes, he goes. So I think both Mela and Micaela, mycalip have to be a part of this pical going off to you mass dartmouth, and awesome class of players going there. He's one of two goalies. He's also going with Pat Alto from the East Coast Wizards. So I think we'll hear a lot about my calip that when he gets to you, mass startmouth. So we'll put Mella and the...

CALOP was brings us up to six total players so far. We're crusing right along with the chiefs. Don't forget, because I listen, Neil, I know. I don't sit up there. I can't. I can't type fast, not fanthony. Well, you got JP MEL in there. You don't have macalp in there yet. I know. I'm I'm trying to get the years down. That's my that's my struggle. First, I haven't been I haven't been typing in about two weeks ago. You gotta come in a little slap. That sucking. I stuck on a beach. Get back to home. Rowe get back to your typing classroom. Also wanted to ask me old that that ten you have it? Is it just a little to ten, or you just repping the chiefs colors? Oh my God, all the let me put the light on here because I think it's the glare my computers. Give me a second. All right, it's Tan. It's not pure red, all right, and if it is root in red, it will it will blow, it will blend into more tannis color soon. Hey, I Vicki's very happy because the golfers get that white forehead from the hats. Yes, not going to have that this year. No, to not wear a hat very often in the why? So that's six guys so far and I want to say that's the first time we've done two goals. I was just gonna say, and we just talked about like, Oh, you know, goal is hard to make me like just the two goals out there, but not. I think there. Well, I think they. What was the serve it right, like when you when we go back and look at the all time team list, Nolla was on that list, right, Jericho was on that list? Yes, Suda was on that list. Is your suit of a top top ten SHEAF? I mean because it's tough because there are another team that doesn't have a lot of time in this league. So, like those tweener guys, are a little easier to make some of these lists. And I just att a couple more guys that we were announcing this year with the avalanche, Santro and Gordon Jeez Neil. I'll put it. Twenty five goals one year for the cheese Neil. I'll put it this way. If there is a player who deserves to be on multiple lists, I definitely think a suito would deserve to be one, because he was no slouch. When he was on the chiefs. He was still producing over a point per game. Yeah, and then he continued his success with New Jersey. So personally, I would put him on that list. Evergot he was. That's a thirty seven points and three two games for the chiefs, so he was on a path to become a worthington type if he had stayed with them longer. And then, like you were just saying, to it, they when he came over to your New Jersey, e sevens. He was a monster. He led the League in points for quite some time. That two thousand and twenty season actually finishes our leading point leader. I think that. Ye, yes, he did well, but him ten on the list. See it's hoped often. Yeah, if they're more players who are longer tenure that deserves to be on the list, then by all means. Now I'm saying it's right. Now, with him included, we have seven right, okay, we've seen a fill in slot seventy and nine because he's holding slot ten. It's not mean when you look at that list, at that list though, like we said, like there's a lot of guys that played just one quick year and we're good, but they've been good elsewhere. Jason Gordon, Toygo Kraber, he's another one. You went over to the apple core. He came from the apple core or came from the Apple Corps over there. That's for this. So yes, there's a lot of mixed type guys. Dec Lebronti was another good one that came back this year, the Australia native that had a really bad knee injury but then was able to come back and and actually I don't know is if he has he uged out Bronti. is he able to come back or not? I know so many players. He is. He has aged out. I think he's still see still for agent. Yeah, he's playing Australia. Here we go, playing for this cere...

...brave. Yeah, his older brother Played Full Sets Grant Knights and it's playing Division One hockey now. So I got to cover both. Bronti's trusing, both exceptional hockey players. It's brought you on this list. I'll put them on this list. You know, it's great about that. I don't know anything about the AIHL. I'm not going to even act like I know something. Right, Australia is the Australian reason? Australia in independent hockey. Maybe an independent I don't know what the hell with the I stands for. Right, but the team he's on ehl alone. Casey Kubar. Oh, right, that ehl along Bailey Kubar. Yep, I'm assuming there's some relation Tyler Kubar. I'm assuming there's still some relation toby Kubara, but this is an EHL. A Love D you could make the case the CBR brave. I'M gonna have to reach out to their their social media guy. We're going to have them on CBR brave. We don't want we're going to have to have them on for an interview so we can learn more about what the aih Shell is, because that's where decklan is right now. I think decl was on this list if he didn't have the injury that kept him out. Honestly, let's look at the exact when he returned because as I want to send members a showcase, because actually it was a shout out to Coacham Walsh that told me about that. I think it was at the NEWINGTON showcase. was his first Games back. So yeah, he joined the let's see career stats. Here we go. He joined the chiefs part way through the two thousand and twenty season and he put any, put up twenty one points in thirty six games. Right, he had thirteen more points this year and twenty four games. So projected out probably similar in numbers if he had got to play the full the full season. He didn't play a single game in our league this year until December fourteen. Yeah, that was NEWINGTON. What if he gets September, October and November prior to gettings? Standings could have been a lot different. But have been put broad tea and chair go on the power play together in the back. Wait, I thought. Also just a quick thing about the AIHL. It is the Australian Ice Hockey League. It is the Australia. This is also by Wikipedia, just as PA. Say what you will, but it says it is Australia's top level Ice Hockey League establishing two thousand. The AIHL sanctioned by Ice Hockey Australia, who was a member of the IHF, the International Ice Hockey Federation. Apparently it is a semi professional league. Players to see variety of benefits such as weekly stipend, travel expense, expensive is motor vehicles and accommodation. The champion is awarded the good all cup, the world's third oldest ice hockey trophy, the first one being awarded in one thousand nine hundred and nine. Wow. So different question or change of question? Do we want to have them on for a zoom interview? To want to just go there and check it out? I said why I would have no problecy going down to Australia. We can stop in Hawaii, part Heyo, see all your old friends or new friends you just made houses who's want to go to Australia usual. Here's a question for us, being on the East Coast. Is it faster for us to go west or east to get there? Oh Man, hmm, I would even know. I don't know either. That's a whole question. That's a popsicle headache. Yeah, we're getting we're getting into these. They are at this flat over the...

...week. We are off the rails now. But will add brought you to this list, which gives us eight guys so far, including you, suited hill, including Yourseudo, which I think, as we keep talking here, I think he has to be a part of this. I named that Jeff mentioned before was Toyvo Cramer, in terms of big guy, used to hit like a brick. He shows the chiefs late in the two thousand and twenty twenty one season, right, but put up twenty one points in twenty five games, I'll say at three goals in the playoffs, eighteen and twenty one in the regular season. Yeah, hundred and forty nine with the apple members, and before he was he was a captain there too. That's why I remembered him. With New York and like, we're not going to combine USPHL numbers with the HL numbers. We typically don't do that right, but I'm going to do really quick math here right. Watch how fast I can do this guy's. That's ninety seven points to his career in three seasons. Yep, fifteen points as a freshman at Fitzburg state. Twenty two games. I put them on this list. I'll put them on. I'll give it the vote. I know it was brief his time, but he was a huge reason why that two and two thousand and twenty one team won their first ever playoff series. That was against the seahawks. It's right in Springfield. Yeah, that's right. Jimy cables on the call for that, because then they wouldn't played the express in the second series that year. firmmber correctly, and I ended up calling a game war two in that series. Toy of all the notch for the game winner. That sent the chiefs off to the fate to face the express. But remember the line at Jimmy used. That was the on. was that the Arby's everyone gets? Harvey's right here, I think it was. Let's talk to live recently. He said he would love to be on the show at some point next year another games, we can, we can start lighting. Will have all have an exclusive interview, hour and a half episode. I think that was life. Would life is short. Enjoy our Bey, our BEY's. I think that was the overtime winner. Call for your two thousand and twenty. Connecticut chieves that it was Ashton Jones to scored the game winner. Wow, good memory, dude. It's coming back to me. So we add a cramer, we added Braun Tea, we added you Suda. One left Hunter Rossi. Maybe Hunter Rossi, UN a Rossi. That's a good one. I would go there. Another big e show face. He points to forty one games. He only has one season with the the chiefs and that was this past season. But I was a rock here. Davis to Davis was a good one. This year. Rossi could come back. Oh so I'll make the same pitch to him. That made the divine because the vines already committed. I can't. He won't change his mind. If Hunter wants to come back, I will hold a spot for him on the All star team to face his former teammate and Jericho. I will hold a spot for you, Hunter. It's all yours. You're on the All star teams. Just send me a message to come back. Well, let Greg go first. There's there's a there's a little pizza throw across the middle. This does cheerco try to line up this old boy ors he call up her. You know what's funny is like you don't realize the attention that those games are getting until after they're over. Right, like, I'm going way off track again. I'm sorry. So I went to the Red Sox in the middle of all the US Open action that I went to this past week. I, because I just couldn't get enough sports, had to go to a red sox game us so because I was in Boston and I award ehl sweatshirt and we want one go. Sound Lazy.

You know the part of Fenway? I don't anti. Have you been the fenway? I've not been to fenway yet. So they designed fenway like they designed the city of Boston. It's just a maze, basically right, drinks, but like if you've been there enough times you know where you're going. So there's a sex in the fenway where normal stadiums are built larger and they put an escalator. You go up. Fenway is like, Nope, word, we're gonna stick with the original design. If you're going to go up in this gate, you got to go up in this zig zag. You know I'm talking about Jeff. Yeah, like it's right on their street. So you gotta go all the way up. If you're on the top, which, after you've watched seventeen thousand steps, when I add two thousand more to get your it's your butt up to the top section where I was right. So by the time the game ended, keep in mind I had just flown across the world and I went to the reds, the US Open and then to the red sox. I said, we're taking the elevator down. Well, that I know. The elevator down. Put me on with this guy who went to Plymouth state and wrote the post game article for when the ehl all stars played plemis state. What found it all out in the elevator when I had the AHL sweatsued on. You guys are in the same you're at the same game, Thord, and he did say to me, thousand people, he did say to me, did you play in the EHL? Now, as like I still look that young. Thank you. Maybe it's Anthony, maybe it's the Tan. So he knew keep going to Hawaii. That's but to kind of bring it all for a full circle for this upcoming all star team. Just to reiterate what I was saying before, Hunter, the spot is yours. Putting on this top ten, the spot is yours. Then this past year he was huge for the chiefs. Another guy just like divine, had six points in six postseason games on top of forty three points and forty one reular season games. He'd be a huge part of the team if he came back this upcoming season. So we're going to write two thousand and twenty one present, hopefully an extra plug. And then that gets us to that last spot which we went from before. I know your soon I got a year and a half with the sevens because he joined them part way through his first season, within the nineteen twenty year, want to say, but he was the old time leading scorer in the League for that twenty one or two thousand, two thousand and twenty one season. So all sort of an eighteen nineteen year, which is the foundation year for the chiefs, and he was a huge part of that as well. So I think this is our ten. What about Kyle? Like any yeah, that can any I mean he's the one some weight. Horble mentions him and Scott Lawson have a case maybe over over a Studa Rickert. What was great fi couple seasons for them. Harshaw is great this past year for them. Our shows great, you know, I mean I don't even know where this defenseman added up. He was one of the Best D I thought that first year. Well, day prospects sometimes gets a little too slow if you have too many tabs open at once. Oh yeah, Freddy Ilius. He was awesome his one season with the chiefs. Defenseman. Thirty seven points in forty three games. I am malcos solid at one point two for them. Yeah, I'll girl is Surrell's got a lot of old chiefs to the abside world. Gordon Malcolm like wait their all hands to have. HMM, there's a considers sister fourth on on. Yeah, right, I think those are good names to mention, for sure. I just don't know if they replace anybody, right, but still nice. Each week we like to throw those names out there and talk about them quick we have to. Yeah, I say we go with...

...this. I'm them Ay. What's your vote? Sure, shall we Zach Withthington Dominic Jericho, Max Phillips, Jack Divine, JP, Mela, Marcel on the Callip Deaflan, Bronti, Toyvo, cramer, hunter, Rossi and Kaya Suda. I like it. It's solid top ten. So thanks again to Greg Hafferdin for coming on the podcast this week. We will keep these going, I think, right to the end of the summer. Now I think that puts us right up against the first first week of the season. I know we just highlighted the new ehlp teams this past week. All three of them came on the podcast the two new ehl teams the week before. So we just keep checking off teams each week. So I'll keep you guys a little bit in the dark. I'll figure out who we want to do for next week behind the scenes and then let you guys know. All right, sounds good. So that's a press see you guys there to them. Thanks for listening to the e show. Learn more at Eastern Hockey League Dot Org and follow us on Facebook, twitter, instagram and Youtube. Also, be sure to subscribe and get notified when next week's PODCAST is released.

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