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EHL 10th Anniversary Team of the Week (Lumberjacks) | Episode 120

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On this week's episode of the #EShow we head north, and feature the Vermont Lumberjacks. Joining the podcast for the very first time (1:07), Gary Gill comes on to talk about his first year at the helm in Vermont. Gill reflects on taking over the team late in the summer of 2021, and talks about how far the group came as an entire organization over the course of the season. Further along, the #ECrew gets back together (16:30), and goes through the toughest Top 10 selection of the off-season to date.

Welcome to the e show with Neil Rabbit. Founded in two thousand and thirteen the EHL has become the college placement leader on the East Coast. Sit Back and learn more about the next step in your junior hockey career. Welcome to the east show, presented by the polly box foundation. Foundations mission centers around their daily motto we take care of our own as they help out all of those within the hockey community who've experienced a catastrophic event. Learn more at polly box foundation dot Org. What's up? My name is Neil Raven. This episode Number One hundred and twenty of the show. On this week's episode we had north and feature of the Vermont lumberjacks during the podcast. For the very first time, Gary Gil comes on to talk about his first year at the helm in Vermont. Gil Reflects on taking over the team late in the summer of two thousand and twenty one and talks about how far the group came as an entire organization over the course of the season for their law on the e crew gets back together and goes through the toughest top ten selection of the offseason to date. Joy Now by Gary Gil, the head coach and GM of the Vermont under decks. How's it going? Gary? Pretty good? Are Are you good? Thanks coming on the PODCAST, but this is actually the first time I've had you on the podcast. I apologized for that not doing it during this season, but we're at the end of your first year heading into your second year. When you look back on the twenty one twenty two season, what are your initial takeaways? I think my biggest takeaway from it is how much I enjoyed the parody in the league. You know, anybody could have been beating on any given I didn't matter what you're what team you were playing, and so, I mean I've been a part of other leagues that don't have this type of parody, but from top to bottom it's it's it's a fun league to be a part of and in particular with the parody, was your division. I'm not sure if you knew this, but maybe it's just my opinion, but then North Division was really the toughest division in two thousand and two thousand and twenty one. Did you know that getting into it? I mean Jim also had spoke to me about it prior to and actually when I coached here, about seven or eight years ago. It was pretty tough then. I don't know that it was stuff as it is now and but yeah, I kind of I kind of knew that. You know avalanche. I know Chris and I know he puts a heck of a program together every year. You know, the wolves for doing the right things. Brett trieder down and sea coast was doing the right things. You know, it was fun. It's but I'd rather play like that. That really would. For sure. Around this time a year ago, they maybe a little bit later, is when you actually took over in Vermont. Can you got to take us through the process of how you ended up back in Burlington? Well, I've been friends with Maurice for a long time. You know. I coached his son. He didn't known the team when I was here before, and so I actually did coach his son then and we had a good relationship then and then throughout the years. You know, they had a couple openings here and there that Maurice's offered to me and I just you know, at the time I was doing pro or other other projects at the time, so I had to turn them down and then I was speaking to Jim Moreso I kept in contact with him over the years. You know, we see each other at showcases or whatnot, and he reached out to me and said Hey, you know, it looks like I'm going to be in the college ranks now and they're going to be looking for a head coach or you interested? And after speaking with my wife a little bit, I said Yeah, and then obviously Maurice and Mrs Rosalics reached out to me and we spoke a little bit about it and you know, and in July of last year I took the program over. So yeah, I mean Jim did a great job setting you know, setting the team up for success for all the years and certainly the transition was pretty easy from coach to coach. So yeah, I...

...mean, so that's set the ground and then it you know, I do remember appening very quickly in July. But when he took over, how quickly did you identify a former player of yours in Seth Gustin, to come work with you? Rather quickly, you know, because I knew that we were going to with the departure of Jack going to wooster so he could be closer to family and whatnot. I knew we were going to need a coach to go there. I had obviously, as you said, I coach Seth in Pro Hockey. So I reached out to him and said, Hey, we're looking for a guy to come in here and and run the HLP team force and be my assistant, and his work ethic as a pro was second to none and so made the made the fit happen real smooth for me because he knows what I like to do and so we be on the same page systematically right out of the gate. Is that the key, because you're one of two organizations that has a coach who is working with a player that are a coach that used to play for, from the other one being Chris and theny down to the avalanche. Is it is stipple, as they know your systems. That makes it easier. I mean I think that lends a great lends itself really well to the situation, because you know you want to bring a guy in that one you can trust. You know that we're going to be on the same page, we're going to run the same things, you know, just like the avalanche, and me and Chris have had this conversation. They run the same systems to they're just a little bit different to meet the criteria of the premier level, you know, so that when they step up to the EHL it's a step up and they can build theirselves into that, that level, which is what we're trying to do. But having having seth come in and, you know, buy into it right out of the gate. You know, if I say, Hey, we're going to run a two unto piggyback, he knows how to teach that. I don't have to teach him how to teach that. He already knows how to do it. So that's huge, you know, for a head coach that I can hand him the rains and let him go. You know, I'll be honest with you. I was on the ice with them during training camp and maybe a couple practices after that, and then it was all seth and I really, I really step back and let him now. You know, we talked about things and, you know, massage things to get him where we wanted to go, and I always watched practice, but I wasn't always on the ice with them because I wanted Seth to control his team. I if I got a big mouth, most head coaches do, so if I get on the bench with Seth and you know the guys are going to look to me because I'm the EHL coach. I didn't want them to do that. I wanted them to look to seth, and so I stayed off the bench intentionally so that seth could have that you know, instant respect and instant guys going his team going to him make sense. And you mentioned how the two of you come on board late summer with the team in a way kind of already established. How tough is as a coach to jump into a situation where the players are kind of already given to you, as opposed to this summer where you get to recruit your own team. Yeah, I mean again, Jim did a great job set in this team up for success throughout the years and and into the transition. The hardest part was really I mean, though me and Jim are similar and some things, we are different in some things too, and so the transition from us with the players buying into what we were doing. You know, we had you know, we had times where, you know, we had some guys that were like, well, we did do it this way last year, you're ready. You didn't do it that way last year. But but as a hockey. We try to keep it in still in the cent them, like they could go to college hockey and play for a coach for a year and he gets fired and they bring in another coach and then they at the end of that year, he gets fired and you bring in another coach. You know you're going to have to learn to adapt to different coaches if you plan on having a career in hockey. So...

...we did have our bumps and bruises early and I would say all the way up and through Christmas. That didn't mean we weren't playing well, we just couldn't get over certain humps. And then after Christmas we the Christmas break. I thought that the buying process had happened in a in a whole New Light and the guys were really bought in and we worked really hard all the way to the end and Grat I'm glad that you identified kind of that. I don't want to call it a turning point, but it felt like a turning point coming back into what two thousand and twenty two at both the EHL and ehlp level. So first looking at the EHL, one big reason for the stretch. From that you went on with the addition of Lenny Perno. Can you talk about what he did for you guys in that? Well, I mean, you know, not to not to crap on our other alternators that. Yeah, there's just cod tie and William Bill Quay. Not to crap on them. We were looking. We had me and seth and the goaltender. Set had a couple conversations about you know, we're in games. Were so close. We just can't we when we have a breakdown, and it is junior hockey, you're going to have breakdowns. When you have a breakdown, you got to be have a guy that can just steal a save from yet at a real timely in a real timely part of the game, you know. And that's what Lenny brought for us. He was able to steal, you know, a couple saves that maybe one of our other guys didn't wait, mate, because we were, you know, we had a breakdown in front of him in the D zone, or we had a breakdown in front of the offenses on our neutral zone, whatever it may be, but Lenny was the guy who could make that save just long enough to keep us in it and allow us to regroup and go back after it. That's letty brought that to the table. His constant compete level and his constant you know, he was unwavering, like nothing. He was the calmest, coolest junior goaltender I've ever had. He just nothing really rattled him. He didn't like losing, but nobody does. You know, he took it to heart, but he never pointed the finger at anybody else. If the pup one in the net, it was his fault. That's how he that's how he looked at it. And you know we had done some video where I showed him it's not your fault, there's nothing you can do. But he's also been really well trained through his career so far in junior's of identifying what happens in the play coming at him. But he's so mature. He's such a mature goaltender. He works really, really hot are and he's a Gamer for his team. He's one hundred percent supporting every guy on his bench, everyone. So any he gave you a chance, you know, in that wolves series, I mean it really could have gone either way. I know it's kind of Hindset at this point, but to see how far the wolves ended up making it in the postseason does it make you feel like a bounce here or there and we get to that same exact point. Well, you know, I do agree that that series could have went either way. The wolves played, they were playing hot to they were riding a hot Guye as well, and they were played pretty well. I'll just say, you know, I don't know that it came down to goaltending. I think it came down to discipline in our third game on what we were going to do. We were capable of doing, we were capable of beating any team in the league. We had proven that. And there you go, parody, I mean parody any if you don't come to play for a three period, sixty minutes, you can, you're probably going to lose that game. And so I don't think it came down to goaltending at all, and that series did come down in the third game to discipline, unfortunately. Yeah, and for the EHL A discapplinting ending, but a great stretch run. The same could be said for the EH LP. But I want to go back pack fast like January for a second, because you actually said to me coming out of the holiday break, watch out for this EH L P team. They're going to about...

...they're about to do something special. What did you see? I just I just saw like those guys. They they had a different aura about them in their locker room there there was not there were no egos in that locker room. As far as you know, not every team has egos at the HL level, but you know, at that those guys, they were just hard working, talented young men. They worked really, really hard. They believe them themselves. They believed in Seth set in a great job of find them up and giving them the right information at the right times and, you know, again with a little bit of feedback between ourselves, me and him, but I just felt like they were they were going to do something really, really special because of the way they played the game all the time. You know, they were down against the avalanche before playoffs. It was a game in our barn. They were down, I can't remember the exact sport, but they were down by quite a few goals and they just battled back and won the game and I'm just I was just that sense of urgency when they go down a goal. was was very impressive to watch a younger group of guys, Dude, and then they get into the postseason and it's an offensive explosion basically for four games to get them to the files. You mentioned earlier how it was always got a. You want to make sure it was seth team. I know you couldn't come to the finals regardless, but to see the whole thing play out, to see seth get to within really a goal of the championship game. And while it's disappointing, how how shortly after we able to sell hey sad like hey, what you did with that group was pretty impressive. Almost instantly that game was over there when they lost and got knocked out. And you know, when you get knocked out it's you know, it's hard on a coach to like, we want the best for those guys and you know, work competitors to we want to win. But almost instantaineously that game was over. And you know, me and seth has a had a ritual that we would call and talk right after the Games, and he reached out to me and we talked. Actually, I'm sorry, I reached after him and I told her, Hey, hold your head high, tell all your boys to hold their head high what they were able to accomplish this year and what he was able to accomplish being his first year Coachi. You know that's that speaks volumes of sets character and the character of the Boyson that locker room. So yeah, I mean I pumped his tires right out right as soon as that came was over. There's nothing that. No shame there. They made it to a frozen finals. No shame at all in those type of players, because, you know, to win a championship, the Moon, the stars all have to align. I don't care how good your team is, you got to get those lucky bounces, you got to get that one goal that you probably shouldn't get. You know that all that stuff has to come into play. So they did a wonderful job for sure, and now you get the chance to turn the page and, as I mentioned earlier, recruit your own teams in a way, but you also have a chance to bring some of those guys back, some of the players, especially who made it for that frozen files in the EH LP. How valuable do you think that experience will be for that coup that comes up? Well, you know, winners breed winning, you know, and they were able to do a lot of great things. We are going to move a couple of those guys up. Hayden bullock is going to come up. You know, Bobby Voss is going to come up. We're going to bring up, we're going to give a few other guys some opportunities to come up and and give it a go. You know can bud way, but there's a lot of guys there that you know. We want to create that pipeline from our EH LP to our it's our EHL team. Now, does that translate into more wins this year? Who knows? Every years different you we don't know. But the one thing we're going to do is continue our culture and the way we build our product and the branding of our products. So those guys, I think will lend itself to what you know the Vermont lumberjack stand for it. So wins and losses, I can no one's ever going to.

I'll never predict anything like that. You know, we could go God forbid, we can lose every game, but one thing's for sure, the culture will be good and the organizational stamp, from an organizational standpoint as well, will be solid from top to bottom, and that's what it's all about. Well, thank you for coming on the PODCAST. Hell was the first time. Will make sure this happened during the season this well, this upcoming more and enjoy the rest of the offseason. Thank you, you too. Thanks for having me. Thanks again to Gary Kill Come on the podcast this week. Apologize again. It was only the first time for him coming on. I somehow never had them on during the season, but a good sport about it. And now let's bring in this week's Ekoy. Only have jeff and Anthony this week. But guys, it's time to make another top ten and I may venture to guess, this may be one of the toughest one so far for us. A lot of good names. I feel like we got a lot of this is gonna be a nice mix, I think, to Neil Nanthy of some original guys, possibly with the initials L and D. maybe the top of probably the most known player to hit a to donny from all lumberjacks Jersey in the history and is up there, and quite a few all time categories. But it's more good coach stories to you know, we've known a couple of coaches before Gary Gil and Seth Gustin came into town. So yeah, what's begin uh? Another mistake by me. I didn't wear my wizard's Jersey during the wizards podcast. I have ever risy downstairs. I drop the ball for the second time this offseason. We won't talk, not on Neal. But let's start with a quick story, because we love stories. Story we go back. Can we go back to when Seth Guston took the puck off the side of that head ear area during the finals? Yes, I mean, this is your canal. Yep, this is during an EHLP game in the frozen finals. I want to say it was against the New Hampshire Avalanche. I think so. Yes, the and so so we were so Chris and I, Chris Russo, was on the call with me and the press box was pretty much behind the benches and I saw it happen in real time. It was almost slow motion. The player on the lumberjacks made a pass, a player on the other team deflected the past and as soon as it went off the stick, I saw it go right towards seth and it just got him like right by the temple or I think, like on the ear and you know he went down but he got right back up and he was yelling at his players to just keep them in the game, like Hey, let's get this line out, you know, let's just keep going, let's go. And I think it was Roachi who had the towel up to his ear and thises and I were just like look, like he's still barking at his players, he's still in the game and he's just completely in the moment and I thought that was amazing. Right, I have that picture somewhere, right, because the hicklings got a great picture of that. Oh, they did. That's right, because it was like a slice. Right, I'm like the inner excuse me, that Air Party your ear. I think opened grew it up. Did you call it live, anthony? Yeah, well, not like they like. Did you announced it on the air that you see us, like saw to happen? Oh yeah, yeah, well, I think Chris and I were audibly shocked, like, oh my goodness, that's just took a puck in the ear, off the side of the head, and we both marveled again on air how he was still talking to his players. He was so trying to rile up. He's the truth, so to say. That's right, Hey, looks in deep rally the troops. You know, they really I said it multiple times on the podcast throughout the season. Having finally been able to meet Seth during one of...

...the later showcases, he just really is one of the nicest players or nicest coaches I've met since working in this league. I would agree. Yeah, very personal, very personal guy, very passionate, young, you know, good hockey mind. Don't know much about sets playing career. Actually one of the Albay Cob loo that picture. Yeah, he did play for Gary Gil professionally for a little bit. What's this? He also played club hockey at Niagara University and from his sophomore through senior year he was the captain. That's where Richard Caprio's of former Niagara or no, not for me, are always a Agra. What are they? Purple Eagles? I think so. Yes, that cody Campbell. Look at that. Look at Anthony's got the seat down for those exact three years. Well, because I asked them. The lumberjacks came to Jersey shore arena, their P team, to play the eighty sevens for two games and I asked him about it. I said, is it true that you were the captain of Niak or for three seasons? He said yes, he said during his freshman year. He was a very vocal guy in mated wasn't the the best. You can see he put up four points in his freshman year season, but the coach, defenseman, all on defence, says a day. Actually, yeah, that's very clear. But the coach had come up to him at the start of his sophomore season and he was funny about it. He said I thought I was getting in trouble, but he said the coach is like, now we notice you're a very vocal guy. The the player seemed to rally around you. We're going to make you captain firm as a sophomore. He was just thinking. Okay, he just took in his stride and and I think that's very indicative of his character and if you've ever spoken to him during a showcase or any time you're playing against the Lumberjackson, you really get to see the kind of person he is and just all around a terrific guy. And he was able to get to the frozen finals in his first year as a coach. Yeah, I think that's nothing short of impressive. Yeah, sure, for sure. Taken over Jack Lowery to the former coach the year. That's now the WIS two railers premier coach. We have a couple of coach trades go on during the offseason. Jim Mosso, former lumberjacks coach, left us for you any but you needed an a heck of a job. Like he, like you say, left left us too, left us, jump us, and I still see it all the showcases, just where the und stuff are waking abis and hanging up and exactly so. Well, let's get this started out. Jeff kind of hinted on the initials earlier of a player that probably starts our list, I mean number one, and that would be a player at you and e actually with Jim loss so there, at you and e Logan to scanny. Oh and not sure if you your guys knew this, but he's an EH L P to ehl a lung. He actually started in the EHLP. If I can get my computer to loone and show you how long was he was. He there for a full season. Was a quick little it was quickly this cofee. Ten points and five games. I've had enough. Thank you much. Yeah. So put it this way, he began the year in the EH LP and said, Hey, I'm gonna just average two points a game. Yeah, do you want me up from the eaters show that you need me at the ehl level, where he then put up thirty seven points that season, combined regular season in postseason, sixty points the next year and then ninety six the year after. So the that season that we will never know that. Yes, this is the one team that we really thought could make a very, very deep run, high scoring team. Over two it or something was the two hundred and eleven goals. There's always crazy word and the scanny O buffaloeen. And what's funny is, so to Scanio, Vermont was supposed to play the ABS in two thousand thousand nineteen and twenty. Yeah, and in the Rangers were supposed to play the wizard. Right now.

Could Vermont have one in the Rangers of one, and then they're both in the finals. Yes, one of the SCANNIO's roommates is Billy Gerard at you Andy? Oh, that's right. So constantly there has been conversation on the over the fact that we would have won. No, we would have won, but we went whatever. No, obviously right, but all those teams were loaded, including this one. Ridiculously right, ridiculous. But the Scny Oh, you know, by record standards it is is the highest scorer in league history when you combine all game totals between regular season and postseason, with a hundred and ninety four. So yeah, he's kind of He's definitely on this list. That's a big, kind of a big deal. It kind of a big deal. So that's one. Would you want to stay at you and he yeah, I mean we could might as well keep those going to stay at you and he will just work one spot down the list. So this was buffle, Buffal Lea, Jordan, a full line. I can before Jordan, buffally buffle. We went back and forth that season a million friggin times. Me Neal Brittany, believe you, two anthony showcases and like yeah, so Boso, I actually put. He played the full year, that seos seventeen eighteen year and the EHLP seventy three points in forty three games and then the scoring like transfer overly. It continued the ehl level, right. It wasn't that they were just blowing apart lower competition and then moved up and struggled. They just kept on humming when they got there. But Oh, Aunty, what we're going to say before I was going to say was it the it was a two thousand nineteen, two thousand and twenty season, where we had called the game together, right, you did the play by play, I did the color up an exter, our small little platform together right behind one of the benches. Yes, yes, yes, yeah, and lumberjacks had scored on a four on three power play. And yes, what's it to scany Oh, who scored the goal? I think you're right. I think it was this dynamic lumberjacks to scanny, oh, buffalen, and it's Jordan. Yes, it's Jordan, even though it's g or done, those Jeff's, those Geo. Well, Hey, well, hang, I mean, yes, I'm I'm gonna be a home I'm going to be a homer and bring up the seven s again. He's meals from one meal, mentions made. Now we're going to an eighty sime s Ding Dang. This here for the EHLP team, we had a player of our, Jeffrey Boker, and he's Farm Posar, and his name was felt the same way Geo. And then he was talking to him drying the playoffs, and he said, Oh, I have a younger brother Jordan. Now Go oh nice, and I like, wait a minute, how to see smells first names. He said, Geo are Oh consisted. Yep. So for Bufflet, I'm pretty sure it's buffaling, because I'm pretty sure that's what he told me, for we'd called that game together. Jeff, if he's listening to the podcast and I am wrong, then feel free to call me out. But what you're gonna call in Jordansuff, we're not posting this live, which you could call us in and give us a show, but we'll forge. I mean we can't go wrong with those two. Forward to each band three years with the program want to just keep going at number three so you can schmid write another a new of more familiar face that was just with us this year and then graduations to him for getting. Moved Up to the NA and had a really good season, I believe, with the Johnstown Tomahawks. Wasn't sure maybe in the beginning if he was going to get a ton of time and then just kind of blew the team away from what I think I heard from the reports of soldiers and is ehl numbers. If we you just you just scrolled away past them. Well, they're right here. When he combined right oar season, post season, a hundred and twenty five points of his own right in his time in the ANA. This year he put up...

...thirty six and forty five games in the right fular season at another two points in the playoffs, another Eh l p alone. So think about the jacks to that. Well, this is Gany, oh, buffal lion and Egan sped. So far all played eh L P Games on that two thousand and seventeen eighteen lumberjacks team. That two thousand and seventeen eighteen lumberjacks HLP team was a whack it. If those are three guys are all on it and unfortunately they could have made a deeper run of the playoffs. But that's the issue with being a premier coach. You have to know that if you got guys that are going to perform at that level, well, they're going to move on to the big team. That's the unfortunate circumstance of coaching and playing at the premier levels that those guys keep playing the way they are, they're going to move on. So should we retell a story transpect that's been told before on the podcast? Just have to you have to do with you being an uncle to a former Lomber? No, no, no, not we haven't got to that story yet. It involves he resides of this too. Okay, yeah, bring it up. Okay, so I know I've told this story on the podcast before, but it's been a few months. So Egan Smit, as we just mentioned, began this past year as agl year in the EHL. Had the chance to move up to the NA midseason and really it was obviously the right move when you look at all the points that you put up in the NA. Right. So, but prior to that he played for the ehl All star team in that faced curry college in you mass, Boston, and he was one of four three year guys on that team. So all four guys are basic where captain's but Egan was the was the see, the other guys were the AG right. So, I've told this before. If you go to our instagram and you scroll back far enough, you'll find and our team picture from the All Star Week. Right. Well, was awesome about what we did was, if you swipe they go from wearing their own jerseys to wear in the All Star jersions. Right, all right, but the biggest thing that you have to look for is the player that's sitting next to me Egan Schmidt. Oh, he has the same exact based that. Ever, this is literally same. Okay, s facial expression. Yeah, while we're in the LUMBERGE, I remember it, Jersey. Remember that? Hmm Swipe. I swear his head is exactly the same. And those are two different pictures from different textings following angles. Literally the same thing. It less like, let's say, you could probably like measure the tilt going on to just to a t are what will get a protractor. Neil will see what angle he tells the said. I know most a lot of people have maybe a certain got pose when they have their picture taken. I guess I can buy it, but Neil, I just wanted more handsome side of his face. I guess the angle just like this is where I like. I want to go back to your comment about going from the EHLP to the EHL and first off I just think it really speaks volumes about the EHLP and how different organizations can send guys to the next level and still play really well at the the EHL. We have three players so far. I'm not saying any of these players should make the the top ten for this year, but you'll packet this year's P team that went to the frozen finals. Trent King, who scored in his first game when called up to the EHL. Dren one of the showcases. Yep, Bobby Voss, he didn't bullock our hits. SEDO Rovich. He had twenty nasty twenty seven points in nineteen games. And you think how many of these players are going to light it up in the next couple of seasons with the EHL team, if for when they get called up. So we talked about that pipeline and looking at the EHLP team from this year, that pipeline is still in very good shape.

Yeah, and Gary Gil didn't want to give away all this secrets earlier, but he didn't mention at least Bobby Voss and Hayden bullock moving up to the HL. Like but you have to thank our hip to you have to think Trent King as well. No, no, cheapis Anthony, as you like, the WHO cheap? That's one of the ehl players told me during one of the first showcases. So I don't know if they're on this list. We have to see what they do in the EHL. To your point, right, those three guys. Well, we got three so far. The three biggest names probably that jump out of US and Logan to scanny out Jordan Buffalo. I'm Buffalle and I guess we got it. Check on that, and Egan Smith. Obviously those are the three all time leaders and scoring. I guess that means if we don't include the other guy that went on over a hundred points, we'd probably be making a mistake. MMM, so that would be Kyle MacDonald. I actually remember specifically the year that the lumberjacks got knocked out by the wizards, which I believe may have been there frozen finals year for the wizards now was the year before. So this was the year that the wizards had the MVP and the rookie of the year and and Panzeka and shouette. They knocked out Vermont to face the ABS, who then beat them and went on to win the championship. But that two thousand and seventeen and eighteen year was another thick. It is eh LP to EHL LUMBERJACK, not three years for Kyle macton. I'm Miss Anaxila PTSD, I seriously do, but I remember when the series ended, like he stayed at his Blue Line on a knee like soaking it all in for an extra few minutes and like actually helped like push the nets back over the wall like like it was like a kind of like a weird moment in a way, but he was kind of just soaking it in for one last time before we went off the Nichols College. So well, I said, he's the fourth guy in their program that went over a hundred points. We have to include all four because to go over a hundred points is impressed. We would look stupid if we did not. And all four guys spent some time in the EHLP. No, that's the hill commercials we talked about in these show the rigular seeson. So here's the rest of the all time team that we put together this past year. Jeff, let's keep in mind we're heading in the season number ten of the EHL. The lumberjacks have been in the League for eight years. The ninth there. Technically they were called the Washington junior nationals, but that was the sale that brought the team to Burlington. But there's some pretty big names here. Marcus Como's any playing the North American Hockey League? Yes, he did, which I think we should go there next. He let's do it. I don't almost. Yeah, he was a while ago. He was back in your like inaugural year. So I first year in the League, like he called it, my inaugural year. Yeah, not really new play for Johnstown. I think we're gonna sell the are bags John's. Oh No, you Allen, I rivers, the Wolfspar Scranton Nights and and the EGIN night. Yeah, I'm trying to remember because my first season working with the titans was the two thousand sixteen seventeen season and I think, and you could actually see it on a Laite prospects, he actually was among several players from the North American Hockey League that were selected to play for team Latfia, Marcus Comos, Vito Jansen's and Marek's mitten's both of the then, as did rebels at the time. So bill but once this who I think, played for for Johnstown. What's interesting about Kumo's is for the EH shell. He...

...only tenally played one a year, but he played two years with Vermont. When you go back and see that the year prior twenty fourteen fifteen, he played in the Met League, which is not a what doesn't exist anymore. The met League essentially became the EH LP. So he's almost an EH LP RM, also by default, right. But as Anthony mentioned, he went up and played a couple seasons, or three years I should say, in the NAA now plays for the University Alaska Fairbanks Division One. Yes, Jeff by anaugural year, that fifteen sixteen season. He was really good. She just picture. This is his Kenai River and I picture. Look at that Ur Bey sponsorship. Top left corner are these little make one Jimmy Cabe, Barry probbed. That's it. We need to get Arby's to put it, put their logo on. Archers curly fries for everybody going to Ourby's. So we already have five guys here and we haven't even mentioned the player earlier that Jeff. Like Jeff pointed out, likes to call me his uncle. I loo good story. We've talked about that. You show a few times. I don't know why Cory doney like to call me his uncle. We wrote these our first team and on the hurricane mobiles. Colbos is the first te sorry, second Redni. I know I said this last week so it's gonna sounds stupid. I said it about Collyer. Been COSCIS, because he's probably the Koya is probably the fastest skater, I think. Don't he was probably the best skater. There is a difference in my apem like he couldn't move like nobody else up and down the ice. Someone like ad I know we are all not very big Sydney crosby fans, but someone like that Crosby, I soil. So go to Connor mcdavid, someone that could move and make a move in very small amount of real estates. I got cannot wait for a don't need to hear the fact that you just compared him to call him. But someone of like that skill cell you're saying, but as like the speed, but also the agility and the elusiveness to kind of move on a dime and that kind of stuff, because you can be it's just like in the NFL, you can be a burner and run street but that doesn't mean you run the best routes and that kind of thing. So, yeah, I give what you're saying. I'll never forget when I had Anthony Dell to fall on the PODCAST, who played for the revolution, played for Maryland Black Bears from New Jersey, I think, and God, yes, Gris plays at plass fork now, answer course. And he talked about the Covid Year two thousand and twenty one, how they were limited because New York was so shut down to just really playing like Inter squad type scrimmages. And he was like, I've never played with a player like co Corydoni. He goes. It's a different speed. It's a totally different speed. He goes. Thank God he's on my team, Maryland down the way. Yes, so that's six guys so far. And Donny Walt like when I say this because he'll feel offended. My favorite player in the lumberjacks history hasn't been named. Mason e Moof was a game changer. That's what I thought. He was tough as hell. He went through everything. There was a there was an injury. Had One year where I want to say you got like Col with escape play or something like that. Like he battled through everything. It's not because he's another Eh lp to but he just I mean Anthony Point pointed this out on a previous episode, like sometimes it's tough to see where guys truly rank on elite prospects because of the number of games played. Like what what emof did in fifty one games. What would that an equal if he had played the same like one hundred and fifty one. You know it. That that the scanny almost got to but EMOF, yes, part of the lumberjacks,...

EHLP first when she wanted to be feeble digits for you, like it was out of this world, out of this world. Obviously he won all of these awards that you're only sixteen, seventeen, hmmm. So sometimes I like to spread the love. MVP and four to the year. When you do that, you went off. He was the EH tick over everybody and for to the year and sixteen seven team actually then went in play the season in the CCHL in Canada, then came back in the war the sea for Vermont. Really them making it to the two thousand and twenty twenty one frozen finals was really the buildup of that eighteen nineteen lumberjacks team that lost to the wizards in game three of the third period of game three, one step away from the finals, and I'm sure Mason would say this, I'm sure Jim Assa would say this if they were healthier, because Mason was battling a crazy injury. They may have won that series and got to the finals of the first time that year, eighteen nineteen. Obviously we already touched the fact that one, nineteen twenty eight even finish the playoffs. So what he did as a captain for Vermont that Eighteen Nineteen Year I think turn the corner for them to then make it in two thousand and twenty and twenty one. So I got to put Mason him off on this list. And it's crazy we're already at seven pens and they've had a lot of good players and their history and, like we said earlier, they've been around almost an Oge, almost an original team from the AHL, and I mean some we looked at last week two guys with the transition, or the transgression I guess you would say, lack of better words, about like how they came from their starting years. So like the two thousand and fourteen fifteen season, we all all known the lumberjacks is a high scoring team. At least got a hundred seven goals that year. Then you see some of these teams. Each year they got more and more high scoring. One one thousand and thirteen, hundred, fifty eight, hundred, sixty three two hundred and eleven goals in two thousand and eighteen. That's pretty good. Two hundred and nine and two thousand on thousand nine hundred and twenty. That a big team. We've talked about but you look at their movement in the Wind, Calm Right sixteen and twenty four to seventeen and twenty two, two thousand and two and eighteen, twenty four and twenty four. So each year they've really gotten better, just like the worster railers we talked about last last week on that episode. So it's a credit to the ownership and two guys like Mason e moff and it's the scanty o. You get those kind of guys in your system, its show that you can win. And we haven't talked about Jim Mosso yet on this episode. I know. I mean he's been he was part of the he was he was the hlp coach, moved up to the HL he was there for how long? Five years? Six years. He was a long time. He his first year with the program was my first year, fifteen sixteen. He took over as the EHL head coach in sixteen seventeen. I want to say when they yeah, because it was DC Tks deal. That was the first yes, sure remember, and then Jim took over him. I mean the credit that I have to give Jim is getting that two thousand and two thousand and twenty one team to the frozen finals. Yeah, that was the year from Hell for that program. Obviously everyone went through a lot because of covid could play lady rings, a good water piece that nobody had to go through more than vermonted. That's right. Yeah, because the Vermont had the strict that. I remember that that they had the worst like restrictions as far as how you could play, who you could play mileagewise, and that was the year you would did all their games up Waterville valley. To I had today, they had to move about a letty were because from the beginning of the season to the beginning of December they played nine total games, not just not home games,...

...this nine total games. They didn't play any at home because what they had to do is they would go out and they would go play three games and then they have to go back in quarantine for two of us. So like all of a sudden, now you're three months in and you make the move to Waterville Valley, covid hits. You got to shut down till after the New Year. Now you come back after the New Year. We're up in Waterville Valley. It's the first game. We're in warmups. Piece of glass smashes into a million pieces. MMM. I remember Jim looked at me and said they don't want us to play hockey this year and I said it feels that way. He's like, but trust me, this team is good enough to get there, because we touched on Egan Schmidt right. He was a big part of that team. Paul Find Lee's was a huge part. He was a teen. I think we should talk about maybe putting on this team. He was he was dynamic and Jim was right, right. They ended up making it that two thousand and two thousand and twenty one frozen finals. I think ultimately just the wear and tear of like playing over thirty games from January first to the end of March caught up to them. Yeah, but they weren't favorite fantastic. I mean David Reducey was the backbone of that team. Have even talked about Jeff's favorite name yet to what Duce the doozymeister, and and they what they won that first game against the Rangers. We know its controversial. We will go there, but they all had us had our heads on a swivel. HASHTAG whistle game. I'm sorry, what's looking but remember we all had our heads on swivel. We're like, WHOA, Rangers where the deepest team. They ended up becoming the champions that that season, but the LUMB jacks knocked them off in the first game. We're like, Oh, here we go, deal the lumberjacks about to make a deep run. And then, you know, unfortunately they didn't. But still, like you said, a credit to them because I remember when, every week we did the podcast, we kept reviewing each division and it was I think there were three and six after nine games or six of something like crazy, all right, and it just stayed there. Every week we're like still three and six, still three and six, still nine games. It was just that was just, it was bonkers. It was it was nuts, but they persevered. Yeah, we have seven guys so far. Shad a goalie in there. Just put reduce the H okay as it wasn't. Let's go over his yeah, let's go on the ranked as the ten winning a Scolian League history with thirty nine wins and Nazareth now with another ehl goalie and Matt Sales. I want to say. So we'll see them together this fall. He when we face face Nazarth O. They're all star team for managers. Eighty seven, I'll say, for anthy and protect up and protect that. That's correct. What up, Terry? What? So? Yeah, we have to have a goalie in there. That gives us eight. So far. We probably don't have the room for Connor Carbo also. Yeah, but it's worth mentioning what he did because he spent he kind of climbed up with Jim Massa, right, so he said this so many times on this episode. Another eh LP to ehl, alum right. But I remember specifically with Carbo. He came up at the same time as coach Moss will, basically right. So he spent two years with the EHLP, then one and a half with the EHL because he got called up to or called up, he got asked to come to Wentworth halfway through that season and in one postseason run he knocked off Curry College and he knocked off you and E and then had a chance to complete the TRIFECTA and get through Endicott as well, and it was like it was one of those like hot goalie moments, like he just came in and just sold in net and like almost put went with on his...

...back all the way through the CCC. But it was just so cool to see that even in the middle of a season, our players are ready for the next level. They don't need to go to the full year of development. They're ready right now and any almost carried them to the CCC. We don't have room for him on this top ten. We already have our goalie, Anthony, like we only have like one. Yeah, there's just too many, just too many guys that we need to still talk about. We only have two spots left. So we get to the Rangers. Might have two goals on that. That all time team. That's a team with I can already here rich now all for us. You probably should increase the number up to about fifteen. Well, it's called the top ten for eason, so I mean names that we haven't touched on it yet. Right, Dom Cuzie Act to your guy for Vermont Andrew Bay. Start another EH LP to ehl along at Plattsburgh. Paul Find Lee's we mentioned earlier, was part of that. Two, two thousand and twenty one, a two sport athlete at Middlebury Hey playing golf and hockey, came on the podcasts past year. Glenna the check will be calling him then robots I plays at Manhattanville with Mass Niem off. Austin Marini was the third member of that to scanny Oh Buffali in line. Right, you got the three guys there. I mean Andrew Barber was an excellent players, part of the seventeen eighteen all star team that faced UMS Boston the first year we did it. Tyler Rosisky is at pots day. I'm like, we'll only have two spots left. We're gonna PISS somebody off. MMM, happens every week. Yeah, used to it. HMM. I mean we didn't have even talked about some of the other players from this past year, right, like they can bring to that nose up there way back. Vick to know they can bring it back. Gearing on in La Valley wasn't on the All star all time team. Right. You got guys like Tyler penry somewhere on this list of top scorers as well. We'll have to spot. Yeah, HMM, this is tough. I mean you got to stick with you. Look at guys that average over point per game. We put Koziak on there yet. We have not put Kusiak on there yet. It's like Kusiak Victor too stands. I can't believe Victor Nose played seventy one games with these now or as lumberjacks to this point. Whoop. Sorry, sorry about the fellow north rival signed to come back this year right this he's so he'll be a three year so he's gonna Eclipse the hundred point mark. Knock on wood. Cut What I love. I don't want to chank some. I mean this is where it gets tough. Go anywhere. We could go anywhere. We know that there's going to be somebody that's upset they're not on this list just to showcaring on's numbers. Also pretty sure they're like best friends because ire from Canada together, but also coming back this year. So he's only nineteen. Another guy that can burn up the ice and down the ice honor fully hasn't been mentioned. He had a very shortish stint with Vermont, joining them later on in one thousand eighteen nineteen season. I mean, look at the most trade deadline guys. I think look at this past year at Franklin Pierce. Thirty two points in twenty five games, includes a four goal game. Good for him, Tyler Rigo's Franklin Pierce Raid. Yeah, he would have US play him on this list, right. I mean, there's so many different ways that we can go here and we really haven't, besides Schmidt, mention anyone from this past year's team, let's say. So do we put like a newer? Could we go with I get...

...two, know, or gearing on to get at least one? Order we go in Level Valley? The hell, he's a good one too. I mean there's been so many good players well at valley also played with the EHLP team. So do you want to keep keep that? Yeah, look at this going deals this seventeen. Let's pause. This seventeen, eighteen eh LP team. Gotta look them up, Buffy, right. Obviously we talked about the seventy three points before Egan Schmidt in La Vell Logan, to scanny of Aaron Damron, Tom Scolder. Remember. You look at some of the names on this list. This team was loaded, absolutely loaded, and then Carbo was their goalie. Yep, Carbo and Erk Roy. I mean this team was was on another level. Yeah, Jim Muscle like the fat that. We talked about them, right, I did. We have to pull a valley? Yeah, I think we're leaning towards him heading a buffalo state this fall. Part of an awesome class of players that were actually sending off the Buffalo State this fall includes two guys from Vermont, in La Valley and Tyler Penry, right, and then two guys from the little fires and Chris Blango and Kyle Patton. That's a pretty strong for player class from the game. That's there. You go some noise, they'll put up some points and we're going to make some noise now because we're going to put a valley on this list, but not tyler penry right, so that that could start a little bit of a fire. PENRY was a popular fantasy pick this year too. I agree. So that gets us. What's funny is these guy it looks like these guys played five years now when you put the years in like that, but they sixteen to two thousand and seventeen to twenty two. They just moved like. I mean, I've ever showed you while we're on this path. If we wanted to go like true, like all time lumberjack, as I can't type. Aaron Damron is like the all time lumber shack. I gotta show you guys this. He joined the program like I want to say, he was like sixteen years old, like as young as you could possibly be with playing juniors, because he played four years the H LP and then one of your eeshl. Wow, like just the total number of games when he combined regular season the postseason. Hundred and thirty seven in the EHLP, forty three the EHL. I'm using a later seventeen and three jurnet. When you add all four of these together, two hundred exactular season. If you lose twenty playoff games. Yeah, go on to Hondo. They're different. You're on there. It is. I don't just go to snoon next year to play for wall sheet. We got nine guys. Damner wasn't a part of the all time team. Oh that to set US cuss and leading any a year. Yeah, Damner wasn't on that all time team. Huh, like we say, we're not perfect. Maybe she'd deserve a spot on they're not sure. But what's he on our EH LP? was he on the transition team though? Neil, good, good question. Chuff and I feel like he should have been if he spent m offs. There be Shard's there no, no carbarboll, Carbo Bashard em off from the lumberjacks, all on...

...that transition team. Still of couzy AK. We talked about marine US another one that's amazing, man. I promise you marine, he will reach out if he's on this list. So should we? Now we don't have to because of that reason. No, we don't need the pressure. I honestly we don't crack. One of my favorite players when I first was starting in the League was Andrew Barber. Now castleton just finished the castles, and yet four years they're two years in the EHL. I would go here d six boards and a goaliely like those numbers too. That's too full, too full lines with the one full pairing with one guy. Switch it out. And there's some names here. They're going to be upset, but we can't be kicking them on the list. James Boy Bear, Daniel Barry Bears, someone I get on that team last year because I remember he was a left shot, big slap shot guy. Yeah, he fosters and we didn't mention trying to throw all those guys names back out into the air waves to give them the air wave honorable mention. All right, are we go with this list? Yeah, I'm finnt think, Anthony. What do you think? Yeah, I think so. Just a soul batch, so many talented players and the theme that Neil keeps bringing up the EH LP toehl pipeline that the lumberjacks have it. It just shows how good they are player development and getting players to the next level. Yeah, and going back to what I said earlier, I look forward to seeing players from this year's EHLP team, Trent king our hit, see a rovitch bud whale. All those guys make their way up into the EHL and I don't have a single doubt my mind all those players can become great producers and great players for their ehl team. Got It up on a percent dope. So here's the list. Logan to Scanny, oh Jordan, buffaleen, Egan Schmidt, Kyle McDonald, Marcus Kumol's Corey, Doni Mason, name off David or Duzi in La Valley and Andrew Barber to damn good team of ten. It's a damn good team. And which Jersey do they wear? For the all time team Oh man, the Little Jersey or a's as to be the Flannel Jersey? It's a great question, but that will do it for this week's episode. Next week we go back to the south. We're going to go team Maryland. Next week team Marilyn. Interesting. So what will be interesting? Jeff, look at the way we did team I know I'm looking at him. See, Thomas Walker was a wilkes fir script nice. Ever, remember what, because of how much we love Thomas Walkers, Uhl frozen finals performance. So let me figure out what year team Marilyn. Look, that's gonna be a team. We put a lot of guys from like this pasture's team to the it was the the first year. Is the eighteen nineteen season? Yeah, they've only been hound. Okay, so this past year was just their fourth year and it was Josh's. This pastially was only Josh's second year with the teeth. No, no, I thought it was his third. He thirty and thirty nine, twenty sees, yes, thirty year. Okay, so so what we look at her? What we made this list? Chef I we were only going off of two years really with Josh there. Okay, yeah, this past year's team was good too. So well, a lot of names from there to help pick from. Yes, for sure. So we won't have the stars and the honor remembers. Probably, probably not. We have to drop that. Probably will drop that. Well, that doesn't for our Vermont Lumber Shacks episode. I will actually see seth and gusts. Seth and Gus step and...

I just combined his last stud these two, Seth and Gary, so that these gazella's. Yeah, it's casseess. Last name is Gustin. I will see seth and Gary this week an out in Denver, along with a lot of other coaches at the CCM showcase. Looking forward to that and looking forward to letting team Maryland next week. So we'll talk to you guys then. Thanks for listening to the e show. Learn more at Eastern Hockey League Dot Org and follow us on Facebook, twitter, instagram and Youtube. Also, be sure to subscribe and get notified when next week's PODCAST is released.

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